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    Please help - Installation problem with WAVES Gold bundle with Ableton Live 9.2.3

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    Hi all

    Just a quick question for those of you who are using the Waves Gold bundle plugins with Live. I have a silly question regarding installation of the various components as I don't think they have installed correctly or they may have installed in the wrong place.

    Installation of the bundle was via the Easy Install and Activate menu on the Waves Central page... the software downloaded OK but I wasn't given a choice as to where the plugins were finally installed. As it was, the Waves plugin folder automatically installed in the C: drive Program Files (x86) directory. It contained 5 folders: Applications, Data, Plug-Ins V9, ReWire and Waveshells V9. The Waves Plug-Ins folder contained 35 bundles plus associated documents eg Audio Track bundle, C1 bundle, C4 bundle, DeEsser bundle etc.

    Unfortunately, my VST plugin folder for Live is on a separate drive (M: drive) and Live will scan that nominated M: drive folder on startup - not the Wave folder in the C: drive.

    I couldn't work out a way to get Live to see the Wave folder so in frustration, I copied the entire Wave folder containing the above mentioned 5 folders from the C: drive and simply pasted it into the Ableton VST folder located on the M: drive.

    All of the VST Wave plugins now appear in Live and as far as I have tested, they all are working correctly including the various preset library settings. The problem is that I now see 120 separate VSTs listed inside the Live Wave folder and many appear to be variations of the same plugin eg. C4 mono vst, C4 stereo vst... Doubler2 Mono vst, Doubler2 Mono vst/Stereo vst, Doubler2 stereo vst ... Q1 Mono vst, Q1 Stereo vst ... Q2 Mono vst, Q2 Stereo vst and so on. All of these VSTs are located in the following folder hierarchy in the Ableton plugin menu: Waves / WaveShells V9 / WaveShell-VST 9.6 / vst XXX

    Can you please tell me what I have done wrong or how I can re-install the plugins to the Live M: drive VST folder? Should I be seeing so many VSTs just lumped together or should they appear in their own separate bundle folder?

    many thanks for your help.

    ps - I'm using Live 9.2.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekhed66 View Post
    Hi all

    Just a quick question for those of you who are using the Waves Gold bundle plugins with Live. I have a silly question regarding installation of the various components as I don't think they have installed correctly or they may have installed in the wrong place.

    Installation of the bundle was via the Easy Install and Activate menu on the Waves Central page... the software downloaded OK but I wasn't given a choice as to where the plugins were finally installed. As it was, the Waves plugin folder automatically installed in the C: drive Program Files (x86) directory. It contained 5 folders: Applications, Data, Plug-Ins V9, ReWire and Waveshells V9. The Waves Plug-Ins folder contained 35 bundles plus associated documents eg Audio Track bundle, C1 bundle, C4 bundle, DeEsser bundle etc.

    Unfortunately, my VST plugin folder for Live is on a separate drive (M: drive) and Live will scan that nominated M: drive folder on startup - not the Wave folder in the C: drive.

    I couldn't work out a way to get Live to see the Wave folder so in frustration, I copied the entire Wave folder containing the above mentioned 5 folders from the C: drive and simply pasted it into the Ableton VST folder located on the M: drive.

    All of the VST Wave plugins now appear in Live and as far as I have tested, they all are working correctly including the various preset library settings. The problem is that I now see 120 separate VSTs listed inside the Live Wave folder and many appear to be variations of the same plugin eg. C4 mono vst, C4 stereo vst... Doubler2 Mono vst, Doubler2 Mono vst/Stereo vst, Doubler2 stereo vst ... Q1 Mono vst, Q1 Stereo vst ... Q2 Mono vst, Q2 Stereo vst and so on. All of these VSTs are located in the following folder hierarchy in the Ableton plugin menu: Waves / WaveShells V9 / WaveShell-VST 9.6 / vst XXX

    Can you please tell me what I have done wrong or how I can re-install the plugins to the Live M: drive VST folder? Should I be seeing so many VSTs just lumped together or should they appear in their own separate bundle folder?

    many thanks for your help.

    ps - I'm using Live 9.2.3
    I believe when installing Waves Live you can set the target VST folder. You might need/want to uninstall Waves and start over so it installs to the folder you want on M:/secondary storage drive. [I use the default folders for most of my plugins... soft synths (VSTi) are a different story]

    Does Abelton support VST3? Most of my Waves plugins are VST3 compatible and show up in my VST3 folder in Sonar nicely organized based on plugin type (Reverb, delay, modulators, etc). I agree that the old VST style list was a dump to sort through.
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    I have Gold in Ableton, you only need the Waves DLL in your folder (just 1), then Ableton will show a list of all of the Waves VSTs that come with the bundle.

    As Pinky stated, when you install, Waves gives you an option of where to put the 32 and then the 64. If you are using Ableton 64, then you will need to point Ableton to that folder, the 64 bit version of Ableton will not "bridge 32 bit".

    Find the Waves DLL WaveShell-VST 9.3_(depends on which version).dll keep that in the VST folder, all the other folders that you copied can be removed.
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    I just went through this same deal with the Gold bundle and Reaper. I've been happily using version 9.3 of the bundle for the last year, but decided to update to the latest 9.6 version after Waves emailed me about the update plan about tomexpire.

    Somewhere between versions 9.3 and 9.6, Waves introduced that annoying installer app. It didn't give me any choice of install location either. You'll have to configure Ableton to look in that WaveShellVST 9.6 folder: https://www.ableton.com/en/help/article/vst-windows/

    And it sounds like you currently have it working correctly. There should be separate stereo and mono versions of all of the plugs, along with various versions of the GTR plugs. The Gold bundle is pretty huge.

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    You can always choose to creat an offline installer from the new Waves Center instead of using the Easy Install 7 Activation.

    Once you select your plugs and create the offline installer...you can then run it manually and have more control.


    And yeah...you can just move the Waves DLL to where you want it to be. I've always gone in and cleaned up the Waves installations and modified where it put stuff. Takes a bit of looking to first understand where what is...but it's no big deal.

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