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    Help with MIDI ; yamaha keyboard

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    I have a fabulous yamaha portbale grand piano that is nothing but a midi controller when ti comes to recording which is maddening becuase it has such great sound. any way i can record realistic arrangemets like what i hear out of my keyboard speakers? i read soemthing about soft synths? what are they? how do they work? and if i have a lousy soundcard will it do me any good?

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    Links for you:

    http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_get...with_midi.html

    http://www.tweakheadz.com/software_samplers.htm

    http://www.tweakheadz.com/software_synths.html

    If you are in love with the sounds of the keyboard, you'll want to record the AUDIO of it into your computer -- if there is an earphone jack or line-out, you just need to plug it into an audio interface to your computer. MIDI is just numbers stating "note 12 on, note 12 off, note 37 on, note 37 off", etc.

    Rule #1 of recording: The cheap on-board soundcard of your computer is only made with $1 worth of parts for beeps, boops and light gaming, not recording music.

    First off, immediately get a good beginner recording book (spend $20 before spending hundred$/thousand$) that shows you what you need to get started and how to hook everything up in your studio:
    Home Recording for Musicians by Jeff Strong - $15
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076...books&v=glance
    (Wish I'd had that when I started; would have saved me lots of money and time and grief)

    Good Newbie guides that also explains all the basics:
    http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm
    http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page/..._beginner_pdfs

    21 Ways To Assemble a Recording Rig:
    http://www.tweakheadz.com/rigs.htm

    Plenty of software around to record for free to start out on:

    Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net

    Kristal: http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

    Other freebies and shareware: www.hitsquad.com

    Another great option is REAPER at http://www.cockos.com/reaper/
    (It's $40 but runs for free until you get guilty enough to pay for it...)

    Music Notation and MIDI recording: Melody Assistant ($20) and Harmony Assistant ($80) have the power of $600 notation packages - http://myriad-online.com
    Demo you can try on the website.

    And you can go out to any Barnes&Noble or Borders and pick up "Computer Music" magazine - they have a full studio suite in every issue's DVD, including sequencers, plugins and tons of audio samples. (Last November, they gave away a full copy of SamplitudeV8SE worth $150 - pays to watch 'em for giveaways...)

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    thanx. i have kristal and already ordered beginners books.
    i was specifclaly told by another member that using the earphone jack will produce lousy soudn quality and i should't bother. would you reccomend getitng a sound module?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweedledee
    thanx. i have kristal and already ordered beginners books.
    i was specifclaly told by another member that using the earphone jack will produce lousy soudn quality and i should't bother. would you reccomend getitng a sound module?
    You dont need a sound module. If the Yamaha sounds good to you, then you record it. You need a decent soundcard. I have no idea if the headphone jack sounds good or bad. Errr, stick in headphones and see how it sounds. If it sounds good, it sounds good.

    What model # is the Yamaha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidK
    You dont need a sound module. If the Yamaha sounds good to you, then you record it. You need a decent soundcard. I have no idea if the headphone jack sounds good or bad. Errr, stick in headphones and see how it sounds. If it sounds good, it sounds good.

    What model # is the Yamaha?
    how can i record the sound? the headphons sound OK. can you gove me instructions how to record via the heaphone jack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweedledee
    how can i record the sound? the headphons sound OK. can you gove me instructions how to record via the heaphone jack?
    You need:

    1. Cables

    2. Soundcard

    3. Some sort of program to record.

    You take some sort of cable out from the headphone jack to the in of the soundcard. You open recording software, you press record and play the piano.

    What kind of soundcard do you have?

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    the soundguy at my BIL's company told me i could probably get started with just an audio interface between my keyboard and the mixer and record audio that way.i hope he's right because that would save me alot of toruble. i asked him about the idea for the headphone jack and he said it would not record in stereo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweedledee
    the soundguy at my BIL's company told me i could probably get started with just an audio interface between my keyboard and the mixer and record audio that way.i hope he's right because that would save me alot of toruble. i asked him about the idea for the headphone jack and he said it would not record in stereo.
    If it comes out stereo, it's stereo. Take a walkman for example: if you can listen to it in stereo, you can hook it up to a home stereo and it WILL be stereo. Same thing with keyboards, if you can hear it in stereo on the headphones it WILL record in stereo.

    You dont need a mixer unless the output is low. You just hook up the outs of the keyboard ( or the headphone out) to the audio interface and thats it.

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    everyone is telling me someothing else. i am so confuzzled.
    if i were to do this via interface (just because it would be a pain int he derier to send my computer to my Brother in law for a week till he gets around to instlaling the new soundcard for me) my soundcard is just a standard pc soundcard that the computer came with and it's not that great.....certainly not for a professional sound from recoridng.i see so many interfaces online and i am not sure which one would be best for this purpose.
    can you reccomend a good one for me? that will allow me to record audio out?

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    This one Tascam has midi, audio and uses a USB port. There are a lot around that price, some use USB and some firewire. It would be very easy to use and install and comes with Cubase lite. You dont have to open the computer, just plug it in to the usb and follow directions.

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