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    wait...the shure sm58 is actually the shure sm57 with a ball on the end?

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    hello

    I read somewhere that shure sm58 microphone is actually the shure sm57 microphone with a pop filter ?
    err....so if I remove the pop filter out of the sm58..... I now have a sm57 in my hands ?

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    Can someone settle tis question definitively, once and for all ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diannaZ View Post
    hello

    I read somewhere that shure sm58 microphone is actually the shure sm57 microphone with a pop filter ?
    err....so if I remove the pop filter out of the sm58..... I now have a sm57 in my hands ?
    Yep, basically the same microphone! Same capsule...same input sensitivity. The only difference between the two is a slight change in frequency response due to the large ball grill of the sm58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diannaZ View Post
    hello

    I read somewhere that shure sm58 microphone is actually the shure sm57 microphone with a pop filter ?
    err....so if I remove the pop filter out of the sm58..... I now have a sm57 in my hands ?
    I swear, someone needs to sticky this question...
    Next time you have a question, use the search funtion on that bar at the top right. We get tired of answering the same question over and over again.
    Yes, it's the exact same thing. If you unscrew that "ball" off the top of the 58, you have a 57 with some foam (which technically gives it appx. a 1dB variance of frequency response to the 57, but yes, it's essentially the same thing.)

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    Here is the spec sheet for the sm58...look at the frequency response

    http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/publ..._specsheet.pdf

    And again for the sm57

    http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/publ..._specsheet.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWrenchey View Post
    I swear, someone needs to sticky this question...
    Next time you have a question, use the search funtion on that bar at the top right. We get tired of answering the same question over and over again. ...
    The sticky' thing's are cool.
    But it's the nature of it that the same stuff will continually recycle as people come in to the game.
    Half the time the searches suck anyway.


    http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/publ..._specsheet.pdf
    http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/publ..._specsheet.pdf

    There you go. 'Same but spec different, and can sound a bit different not just from the 'ball and filter if I recall the 57 allows a tad closer to the diaphragm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diannaZ View Post
    wait...the shure sm58 is actually the shure sm57 with a ball on the end?

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    Actually that's not exactly true anymore...

    When I first encountered the SM57/58 (back in the late 1960s to show my age) the replacement cartridge was exactly the same part number when ordered from Shure.

    However, at some point in the intervening time, this has changed. The SM57 uses an R57 cartidge and the SM58 uses an R59 cartridge. There are a few obvious mechanical differences in the outer case. I'm sure (or is that shure?) that the actual gubbins inside are as near identical as they can be but every little change is generally reflected in tiny variations in frequency response, just like the grill and spacing make slight differences.

    So...very, very similar, yes. Identical now? No.

    Edited to add: if you scroll down a bit, this REPLACEMENT GUIDE has photos showing the physical differences between the cartridges now. From very distant memories, the old common cartridge looked more like the R57.
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    Even if they are basically the same capsule, they will not sound exactly the same, as they are not mounted the same. That being said, what the hell does it matter anyway? Take the friggen ball off. It will sound closer to a 57 than any human ear can tell. It won't make magic just because it is suddenly a 57. Only the source will decide if the mic is worthy.

    Debate over. Move on.
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    The only big difference that I hate is ... if you drop a 58 the grill just gets slightly dented. The 57's plastic grill head will break.


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