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    New Vocal Mic or New Preamp?

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    I'm looking to upgrade my vocal sounds, and I currently have a AKG C3000b running into a mackie 24.4 vlz mixer. I am looking to spend around $400 to maybe $500 dollars to upgrade. Should I use the money to buy a better microphone and keep using the preamps in my mixer, or should I buy a stand alone preamp unit with compression and all that and just keep using my AKG mic?

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    hmmmmmmm.....

    This is a pretty tough one since it really IS dependent on what you plan to do, etc. But off the top of my head, my advice would be this:

    The pres in that Mackie are really not bad at all. Pres are not THE be all end all even though they are important....(even Dan Kennedy has been heard saying this on this very board). If that AKG is pretty much all you got for condenser mics, It'd be a no brainer for MY money to expand the mic collection some.

    If one was a smart shopper, one could take the formentioned 4 or 500 bucks and get a COUPLE of mics and an RNC compressor...OR a couple of RNCs and a mic.

    For mics, there are many to choose from as far as the best bang for the buck goes. Read through a few posts...you'll find some mic recommendations for sure.

    Another thought.....if you want another good all purpose mic....pick up an at4033 (and an RNC).

    If you want more options, pick up 2 MXL603s (overheads, acoustics, etc), an RNC and a less expensive vocal mic like SP stuff or the MXL v67 that gets high marks around here.


    Thats my 2 cents...I dont think another pre will get you the results right now

    heylow

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    I dont think that any mic or pre in that range will give you a WOW improvement over what you got.

    what kind of converters do you use though. THe $660 lucid ad9624 will give you unbelieveable clarity and separation
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    Originally posted by CyanJaguar
    I dont think that any mic or pre in that range will give you a WOW improvement over what you got.

    what kind of converters do you use though. THe $660 lucid ad9624 will give you unbelieveable clarity and separation
    Assuming he needs converters at all.....(I mean the brother could be running a cassette four track for all we know....he didnt say)....I still dont see where one mic and a nice set of converters will make a well rounded recording.

    I just dont see it....


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    Wink RE:"upgrade my vocal sounds"

    My experience is that a Joe Meek compressor (photo-optical) is more
    flattering on vocals than the neutral sound of the RNC (VCA).

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    I'd have to agree with getting another mic(s).I think that a nice mic or two would make the most dramatic improvement for you.In the $400 to$500 price range,there are many nice mics available.If possible try out as many as you can before making up your mind.I just got a Studio Projects TB-1($299)which I think is very nice for the money as is many mics in your price range.You didn't mention what else you have for mics,that should be a consideration for you as to whether you buy one or more mics.
    Randy

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    Originally posted by CyanJaguar

    I dont think that any mic or pre in that range will give you a WOW improvement over what you got.

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    I have to disagree with CyanJaguar on that. I got an MXLv67 and it was ahuge improvement over the c3000b I was previously using. If you have 400 - 500 dollars you can one nice mic. Look on ebay and I'll bet you could find an akg 414 for that much or less. Probably a TLM103 for that much too. They have a Blue baby bottle at 8thstreet for 369 right now, it is a refurbished mic.
    Look around and for that much you can find yourself a really good deal.

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    If it were me I'd buy the best tube mic I could afford: NTK, T-3. I agree the Mackie pres will be hard to beat in the $400-500 range.

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    My AKG C3000B got sold to a local studio in order to upgrade to the
    Studio Projects C1. The AKG is a nice microphone, however, the studio
    owner has since told me the C3000B tends to work better on female
    singers rather than male because it's so bright sounding.
    Generally speaking, there are better condenser microphones out now
    even for what you could sell the C3000B for (est. $200+ e-bay).
    Then you'd have a budget of $600-700 instead of $400-500.

    Chris

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    I originally had a C3000 and thought it to be a decent all-purpose mic, but on my voice it was too shrill and didn't pick up the mids and lows of my acoustic guitar. Get the TLM103 or Baby Bottle. I personally haven't tried the baby bottle, but I'm beginning to see some interesting posts about it. In fact, I may get one myself...

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