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    hey yall. lets see if yall can help me a little bit..
    i have a tlm193 right now with a valley audio 401 mic processor..its sounds great, but i'm looking for an extra mic.. the 193 is very smooth, buts its not working for all my artist(which i just found out after a session last night)
    for female singers, its great... for most rappers its great to.. but for my rappers with deep voices.. its just not the cleanest sounding...
    i really want the budget under $700 to tell the truth but i'll go as high as $1000 seeing that its not my money...

    i've been looking at:most of the mics i've never used
    Studio projects T3
    Rode NTK and NTV
    Groove Tube MD-2
    ADK A51 TC(i really like how it sounded when i used it with a d8b)
    S.E. Electronic z5600 (i know i know, but i've heard this mic and its nice
    CAD M9
    AKG solidtube(i've never really been fond of them)

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    I like the AT4060 for alot of vocalist..Check that one out too


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    Oh ya and check out the Marshall V69{I'm lovein' this mic on elec. guitar} and the V77 tubes..for short cash they really pretty cool..I think they go for about 300.00 apeice..not as "good" as the AT4060..but still pretty dam close at a third their price...good luck


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    My suggestions

    Condenser
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    Studio Projects C-1
    MXL V-69
    CAD M-9
    Blue Dragonfly

    Dynamic
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    EV RE20
    Sennheiser 441
    Shure SM7
    Beyer M88

    If I were you I would go with the Sennheiser 441

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    My mic collection sucks now, but at least I have a girlfreind.

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    Sennheiser MD421 into a kick ass preamp, like the Great River NV. You would be very suprised at what the right preamp can do for a low output dynamic microphone. Even the FMR RNP will help a dynamic. A dynamic microphone loves a higher impedance (1200 ohms or above) input, and high levels of available output gain (60 db or above). It will more often than not sound as good or better than a under $1000 condenser through a mediocre preamp.

    Nathan Eldred
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    Would you like fries with that...

    How about a combo?

    SM7 or MD421 - Nice dynamic, your choice at - $299 (good on other sources too)
    and
    NTK - Nice tube condensor - $400
    $700 total

    SM7 or MD421 - $299
    and
    Studio Projects T3 - $499
    $800 total

    SM7 or MD421 - $299
    and
    Studio Projects C1 - $229
    $528 total

    Should cover some bases that are missed with the 193, and fall within budget. I do have to say I haven't used all of these mics, but I have heard some really nice stuff done with them. I can't really speak for more expensive mics, 'cause I don't have any experience with'em at all. I just wish I had enough cash for an NTK!

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    thanks for yoor help help..
    like i stated its for hiphop and R&B production..

    i really don't need a dynamic right now but if anything i'd add a sm7 to my mics.

    right now i'm leaning toward the ADK A51TC or the SP T3.. for the simple fact i've used them and i like the quality they render..plus the T3 is a multi patteren mic and i might need one soon..

    as for the AT4060.yes i really like that mic for all my vocalist, but its a little more money.. i can get a used one around $899-950 though i know b/c i got offered one before..
    the Marshall V69 and V77.. i've used the v69 onces and it worked well.. but it was a little muddy.
    and the c1, i like it.. its a nice mic but to bright..

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    Originally posted by atlas
    A dynamic microphone loves a higher impedance (1200 ohms or above)
    That's interesting. I've always thought it was exactly the opposite.

    For a dynamic, you should really be looking for the lowest impedence pre you can get your hands on.

    Otherwise, you'll be preserving a lot of the high end, for sure, but it will sound strange.

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    I don't think you always want the lowest input impedance for a dynamic.

    Generally speaking, you want around 10x input impedance vs. mic output Z to minimize voltage loading. An SM58 has an output impedance of 150 ohm or so, which goes with 1.2K input impedance.

    Once you start loading down the dynamic element, you will change the response but will also lose output. Not a bad thing, and might be cool too. But you will have to make up that gain.

    Some dynamics (i.e. ribbon) are designed to work into a specific load Z to provide a specific response. I've experimented with an Oktava ML-52, and it's suprising the differences in tone you get with different loading.

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    Originally posted by c9-2001
    i really don't need a dynamic right now but if anything i'd add a sm7 to my mics.
    You might be surprised. They're both LARGE diaphragm dynamics, and sound much different than the everyday SM 58/57.

    You should really try to test one out before you buy. The SM7 is a staple in the hip/hop world, especially for rappers

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