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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willett View Post
    Yes and no - you can work very well at home with a mic. like the M 930 (or U87, TLM 102/3, etc.) and a duvet hung over a mic. stand.
    I think the TLM 103 is down to 6 decibels. I do not know about the U87. How are you going to get that low with a duvet over your head?

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    I do have a full acoustic treated space (isolation/reflexion adn difusion wise) at home for all my VO works (audiobooks, E-learning courses, comercial promos, Audioguides, etc).

    Thank you for all the input and replies that this thread has had so far, all very helpfull.

    After some extended research i kind of narrowed my choices to 3 mics;

    Stam Audio SA-87 ( a vintage Neumann U87 replica)

    Neumann TLM 103

    Lewitt LCT 540 S

    Any remarks or feedback regarding these 3 would be most appreciated

    Again thanks a lot for all the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemec View Post
    I do have a full acoustic treated space (isolation/reflexion adn difusion wise) at home for all my VO works (audiobooks, E-learning courses, comercial promos, Audioguides, etc).

    Thank you for all the input and replies that this thread has had so far, all very helpfull.

    After some extended research i kind of narrowed my choices to 3 mics;

    Stam Audio SA-87 ( a vintage Neumann U87 replica)

    Neumann TLM 103

    Lewitt LCT 540 S

    Any remarks or feedback regarding these 3 would be most appreciated

    Again thanks a lot for all the help
    If you have a 'fully acoustically treated space' and I assume that also includes fully insulated from exterior noise? Then those microphones will have a base level decibel specification. Claimed by some in tests? The Neumann 103 is I think approx 6 decibels. It is by some claimed to be an 'industry standard' (if there is such a thing) for professional voice over artists. I think this claim is by those people who do not have a higher spec Neumann U87? Anyway my wife has one and I can tell you it is very good and in her treatment room. It does go down to very low decibels. It is very crisp, clear and very good.........But more importantly will it suit your voice?

    The low decibel reading will include any electrical noise how ever low and this can be vary with electrical connections and cables and plugs back to your interface. But this will apply to any microphone. So to get the best out of your chosen microphone. There are other factors to take in to account.
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    What on earth is a base level decibel specification? 6 decibels of something? No idea what you mean.

    Sound on Sound liked the Lewitt, which is good enough for me. I'm not sure about buying a copy of an original classic. I'd probably buy a second hand real 87 I suspect. It will still have value in ten years time.

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    I mean Rob that ......thats what some say it will register down to in a fully treated room. The noise level. So the microphone is basically silent.

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    Is that absolutely vital, I've never been in a circumstance where the microphone generates more noise than a pre-amp. My feeling is that it's one of those scientifically accurate claims that means very little in the real world, where pre-amp noise performance is the limiting factor. You're not adding a sonically perfect pre-amp into the buying spree are you?

    I've never worked in an anechoic chamber, only real spaces with people. I'd suggest maybe buying one mail order and having a listen and then send it back if you don't like it. I suspect Lewett sadly are using the good noise performance as a sales aid, when ultimate performance at the bottom of the meter scale is in the hands of devices upstream of the mic in practically every 'normal' studio. I can see flicker at the bottom of my meters, yet normalising accidentally low recordings reveals no real noise at the b bottom end that gets in the way. I'm quite aware that using my SM7b means a bit more noise than the 414 I prefer now, but the noise component from the extra gain the preamp has to apply is really tiny compared with that generated by other analogue devices.

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    Specs for condenser mics sometimes have an "equivalent noise" rating. The TLM 103 is 17.5dB, which is actually a little higher than some (Miktek C7e is 14dB, for instance).

    I don't think there's any such thing as a "silent" condenser mic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    Is that absolutely vital,
    Dunno? He asked difference between microphones. I just replied with what I have seen on Youtube comparisons and the only one listed which we have. I did point out that 'noise' comes from other parts besides the microphone.

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    I'm an old sceptic, and when I cannot hear something, and see specifications that while accurate (sometimes) are often very misleading. If you get your phone and run a sound app, nowhere I can go with it is remotely silent - the noise floor on an apple is way, way down on maximum level - and once it drops below what you can hear, what's the point in chasing specs. Quite a few condensers have a reduced response as the supply voltage drops. AKG, for instance specify 48V phantom, but the also give a range of voltages for some of their mics that use a different polarising system - they might work down to below 12V, but their dynamic range is more limited. I don't think many people ever notice. Voice overs rarely have quiet rooms because of the scripts. How often do you hear paper rustles.

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    In response to an email that I sent, Robert Clotworthy (narrator for Ancient Aliens, The Curse Of Oak Island and SO much more!) said:

    "I use a Sennheiser 416 for most auditions as it is the industry standard and the mic most likely to be used at a session. For narration or animation I use the Neuman U87. I run them both through an Avalon 737 pre amp."

    I'm retired now but I use the SM7b with a Cloudlifter to voice documentaries, television/radio commercials/PSA's and you name it. Always worked wonderfully.
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