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  • Rock and roll pioneers

    19 57.58%
  • Hacks who where at the right place at the right time

    1 3.03%
  • Okay, some good songs, but not true innovators

    6 18.18%
  • Who/What are The Ventures?

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Thread: The Ventures...Pioneers or Hacks

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    Question The Ventures...Pioneers or Hacks

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    I have read the claim that the Ventures are the most successful Rock and Roll Instrumental group of all time.

    When I was a kid there was a Ventures (vinyl) album (belonging to my older brother) around the house...there has a girl in a bikini on the album cover...I gave the album a listen or two, it was okay...years later I bought a "best of" cassette with many of the same songs I remembered from the "bikini" album. Recently I spoke to a young guitar player who told me that he comes up with decent music but has trouble with lyrics, so I introduced him to the concept of instrumental rock and roll, which naturally led to talking about the Ventures (he had never heard of the Ventures)

    Now I am in the process of getting another "very best of" Ventures album in CD form (my cassette is sounding rough). It seems (from searching through half.com) that there are dozens (at least 30) Venture albums containing many varied combinations of the same (maybe 300 or more) songs (most contain the song "Walk, Don't Run"). There is even a 3-CD box set of the Ventures recording/remaking their own songs in the late '90s/early 2000s (I got this box set thinking it contained the original 60's era recordings). I finally found a CD (on ebay) that contains most of my favorite original/60s-era Venture songs. I especially like "Hawaii Five-O", "Telstar", "The Lonely Bull", "Tequila ", "Out of Limits", "Pipeline", "Apache", and "Rebel Rouser".

    The Ventures are still "okay" to me. I don't think they wrote many of their songs and I guess they didn't have mind-blowing, innovative technical skill on their instruments, but they seemed to have filled a niche in the Rock and Roll landscape.

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    Hack may be too strong a word, for what The Ventures did. They were pioneers, in that they were in the first wave of surf bands, although they've never claimed to be, and still deny being a surf band. They were also pioneers, in their surf guitar instrumental style arrangements of songs that were popular during that first wave of surf bands. While they may not have been a surf band, The Ventures are a big influence on some of what I want to accomplish with my own guitar instrumental efforts, especially in the arranging of existing songs into surf guitar instrumentals.

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    I liked the Ventures. Definate pioneers into instrunental rock.

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    They were innovative hacks! OK, they weren't the greatest musicians but calling them hacks is a bit harsh. I think they were at the right place at the right time.

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    I wish I had one of those Mosrite(sp?) guitars again.

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    The Ventures were one of the first rock (pop) guitar bands to have an influence on me. They weren't amazing but they had a unique sound which opened my eyes and ears to a different aproach to guitar. I think they had more influence on country guitarists than on rock, I still hear "Venture like" sounds in many of today's country songs.
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    I learned Walk don't run in the early 60's, I still play it but I always preferred "The Shadows" a Brit group, who started in 1957 and just had their retirement tour last year.

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    They were certainly the most commercial of the guitar groups, but I've got to go with the Fireballs as being more influential to me....and on a slightly earlier timeline.

    http://www.fireballs-original.com/history.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by philboyd studge
    They were certainly the most commercial of the guitar groups, but I've got to go with the Fireballs as being more influential to me....and on a slightly earlier timeline.

    http://www.fireballs-original.com/history.html
    The Fireballs! I have the CD of the Fireballs Norman Petty masters (Norman Petty was the producer/engineer who partnered with Buddy Holly on his earlier stuff, kind of a precursor to George Martin IMO).

    The Fireballs were truly innovative, but it's not music that will knock you out - kinda like no one's really knocked out by the Ventures. You won't find any instrumental pyrotechnics in their music - it's a different paradigm, with which most of us are not familiar these days. They concentrated on rhythms, melodies, guitar sounds (e.g., playing melodies on baritone guitar), and precise, competent playing, rather than showing off. George Tomsco was the "guitar genius" of the group. The Telstars, the Champs, the Ventures, all of those groups owe something to the Fireballs.

    After Buddy Holly died, the Fireballs were brought in to dub over some demos that Holly had made with just his voice and acoustic guitar. They did a damn fine job of doing that, especially considering that the demos were not rhythmically precise.

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    Back in the '70's when I had a band we'd go over the 'surf' instrumental subject a lot...who started it, who was best, who was most influential, etc. I still don't know, just the records I bought in the '50's. We sort of came the conclusion that anything before 1962 (when surf movies hit it big) was 'pre surf' and therefore much cooler.

    Another great group of that era was The Strangers......could have been studio guys but I'm not sure.

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