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    Trying to take my own advice...Can I have yours?

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    A few weeks ago, my sister was asking for advice about the purchase of an acoustic guitar for her 6 year old who wanted to start taking guitar lessons. Now, I know the kid, and I know he has a great ear and a sincere interest in the instrument, so I told her to spend more than she wanted to in order to get him an instrument that would stay in tune, sound good, and not kill his hands. In other words, MAKE IT FUN!!!

    Of course everybody knows that there are a lot of kids who get a guitar that ends up sitting in the closet gathering dust forever, but don't hedge your bets to save money by getting a cheap instrument; it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when your kid doesn't play that piece of shit.

    She took my advice and bought a little baby taylor for him, and all is well.

    Now my 10 Year old wants a Gibson SG - I mean, he REALLY wants a Gibson SG. He's freaking 10, though...and I think spending that kind of jack on a guitar that he wants mostly because he likes AC/DC is probably a bad idea. So I thought I'd compromise and maybe get him an Epiphone SG. I know very little about electric guitars. Are these things pieces of shit? I'm asking because I really need to order it online because I don't have a major guitar vendor within 100 miles of me. Some of them in the $300-$500 range seem to get some decent user-reviews, but you never know if those are being written by 8 year old's or manufacturer's reps, lol. I really don't want to cheap out on my kid, but if an instrument plays and holds up well, it damned sure doesn't have to say "Gibson" on it to be purchased by me. I'm like...the opposite of a guitar snob.

    I'm sure there have been a bazillion threads on Gibson v. Epiphone, but my question is a little broader because I'm really wanting opinions about the suitableness of an Epi for a 10 year old. What about an Epiphone LP? My kid weighs less than most Les Pauls...are the Epis any lighter?

    I really wish he wanted a tele, lol...this would be so much easier.

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    I played in a band a few years back, and the other guitarist played an Epi SG, so I used it on certain songs. Beautiful guitar with regard to quality, but one thing I will say is that the thing was damn neck-heavy. I mean, I'm a big guy, but this was an effort to hold and play for anything longer than fifteen minutes.

    Just bear it in mind, because if the thing takes a nose dive towards the floor, it's headtsock angle means that you'll likely be looking at a broken neck.

    Good luck to your kid, hope he takes to the music.
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    I had an epiphone les paul for a while, but I was pretty disappointed with the sound of it. I have found that most epiphones are like this, mainly because of the terrible stock pickups.

    I would suggest getting a copy. If you are thinking about getting an epiphone just because it is made by gibson, thats probably not a good idea. You should listen to sound samples and read reviews of the copies and ask some people around here. Even if the copies sound the same, they will be cheaper, and then when your son is a bit older and wants to upgrade he has that option.

    I have also heard these guitars are pretty good - but I have yet to play them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32-20-Blues View Post
    Good luck to your kid, hope he takes to the music.
    Thanks, I appreciate that. He's actually been playing for awhile. He just sort of took an old acoustic that used to be my daughter's and she helped him learn some basics. Then he took an old Squire out of the garage and an amp I'd forgotten I had and he's been using Google and his ear to learn songs...lots and lots of AC/DC songs, lol. I had planned on getting him a better guitar for Christmas, but the input jack on the Squire finally shit itself completely this week, so I guess there's no time like the present to get another guitar for him.

    Never even thought about the balance issue. Are LP's better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudelysses View Post
    I had an epiphone les paul for a while, but I was pretty disappointed with the sound of it. I have found that most epiphones are like this, mainly because of the terrible stock pickups.
    Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudelysses View Post
    I had an epiphone les paul for a while, but I was pretty disappointed with the sound of it. I have found that most epiphones are like this, mainly because of the terrible stock pickups.
    Not all Epi's are dogs. A friend of mine has an Epi Dot (their version of an ES335), which is not bad at all, and the Epi Jack Casady bass is highly regarded by many bassists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisharris View Post

    Never even thought about the balance issue. Are LP's better?
    Afraid I can't answer that - I'm strictly a Fender guy, have never even held a Les Paul!

    Incidentally, for not much more than the 300-500 range you're talking about, you could get him a genuine American Gibson:

    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-F...70-i1149236.gc
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisharris View Post
    Never even thought about the balance issue. Are LP's better?
    This is my first post here - hello everyone.

    Regarding Les Pauls, they are also known for having balance problems, but they are "body heavy" rather than neck heavy. I hate trying to play a Les Paul sitting down, but they are okay when using a strap. The other issue with Les Pauls is that they tend to be very heavy. Might become an issue for a younger kid trying to learn

    I dont know what budget you have in mind, but you might think about the Korean made PRS guitars. I have a US made PRS, but I was very impressed with the PRS SE line. They are a dual humbucker guitar and to me they sound similar to an SG. You could easily pull of AC/DC licks and tone with one of the SE Customs.

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    I've been a very happy Epi G-400 player for a number of years. Prior to 2002(or somewhere around there), IIRC, the cheap overseas epiphones were built in the same factory as Samick, etc, etc. Gibson built there own factory earlier this decade in china, and that's where the new epi's come from.

    I say this, because I think alot of people don't like the older ones, but the new china ones are a step up. Mine was made in china.

    I had a problem with the balance of my SG when I got it, but a 3" leather strap will cure that, I have no problems with it.

    Our other guitar player just bought a G-400 a few weeks ago. It weighs about half(!!) as much as my SG. Seriously, it weighs a fraction of a lot of LP's. That is probably a "bad thing" generally, but he loves it.

    Sorry for the fanboyism.

    You may want to try heritage, alot of people love them and they are even cheaper. I personally havn't played any though.

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    Angus Young on a tele? Don't think so. Pedals can only do so much!

    I played an epi 335 and thought it very nice for the price range, and quite comparable to a real deal 335 I had played a long while ago. I played both Gibson LP and SG in the old days and would choose the light weight of the SG any day over the brick of an LP. Balance was never a problem for me with the SG.

    I have heard much good and some bad about epis, with most of the bad coming from owners of real Gibsons, usually LPs. The epi SGs in the price range you mention ought to have a little better pickups than the models I have seen around $200, and should be worth a chance if you shop at an on-line retailer like Musicians Friend or American Musical Supply that have a good customer service reputation and a 30-day refund policy. You might not know electrics well, but you or your daughter should be able to check out the neck and intonation when it arrives to make sure you are not getting something defective.

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