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    How do YOU mic guitars and basses?

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    I am interested in knowing how you all mic your guitars and basses. I have the best luck getting a nice crunchy tone micing really close to the cone.

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    I have a stereo amp with two 8" speakers. I usually place the (dynamic) mic about 5 inches dead center between the two speakers. Sometimes I place the mic behind the (open) back for a "smoother" sound.

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    I have 2 versions-
    1. Guitar>Avalon AD2022 preamp DI> TC Electronics M300 FX>Carver PM125 power amp>1X12 Marshall cab (Celestion Vintage 30) > Shure SM7B in front, 1" from the grill, just off axis/ AKG D112 on the back of the (open) cab, 4-6" off the opening, angled down just off the speaker magnet>both mics to the 2 channels of a Joemeek twinQcs> to Roland VS1824CD on 2 tracks- then blend to taste.

    2. Guitar>POD Pro>M Audio SP5B (or any powered reference monitor)> AKG C414B-ULS in front, 2-3' off the front, between the tweeter and woofer (right in the near field)/ AKG D12 on the back, about 8" off the bass port, slightly off axis> both mics to the Avalon> then to the board. Remember when using the POD to drive a near field monitor, to leave the cab model engaged (studio mode). When driving a guitar cab with a power amp, disable the cab model (live mode).

    Basically, I don't use guitar amps for recording electric guitar, all the ones I have access to are too noisy for my purposes. Version 1 is good for all kinds of wicked clean, jazz, rockabilly/country, etc. Version 2 is good for distortion. No compression, no EQ, as a rule.-Richie

    P.S.- Bass, I don't bother to mic, as a rule. It's just Bass>Avalon DI> to the board. I don't use compression, EQ, or FX at all

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    Now that's what I call a complete answer Richard.

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    Richard, one question I have. If you mic the reference monitor, won't it feed back ?

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    Wide awke- the answer is no, as long as the monitor isn't jacked into the board. In this setup, I'm not using the monitor for a monitor, I'm using it for a *guitar amp*! You can do the same thing with any preamp. Just go from the +4 line outof the pre, into the line in on the monitor, and then mic it, running the mic into another pre or the other channel of a dual channel pre. To review what you've recorded, either use another set of monitors, or re-patch.
    I usually use just 1 monitor, because using both presents phase issues. I usually leave the other monitor patched to the board, and review for reference in mono. Given that I am deaf in one ear (like Phil Spector- remember the "wall of sound"?), missing one monitor on playback doesn't matter very much to me.
    The advantage of micing a monitor is that it has wicked flat response, and therefore reproduces the amp and cab model accurately, unlike a guitar amp/cab. It also is damn near noise free. And unlike going into the board direct, it *moves air* like a real mic'd up cab, and can do it at much lower volume levels than a combo amp, which has to be cranked to sound good.-Richie

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    Strat-->Mesa Dual Rectifier-->SM57(2" from edge of cone-angled to run parallel to angle of cone) -->Mic Pre-->Delta1010



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    Typically, for electric, my best sounds are an sm57 at the edge of the amp, pointing inward to the center of the cone with the amp sitting in a chair. The typical chain is guitar-->RP-100-->Crate GT80-->sm57-->art mp tube preamp-->recorder.

    I have been happiest with this on one side, and a DI on the other (guitar-->RP-100-->art mp--> recorder), after listening to hundreds of amp presets through studio monitors to get the best sound for the track.

    I am very pleased with my bass sound and have no reason to change it: Peavy Foundation (with week-old strings)--->zoom 506II-->art tube mp--> recorder.

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    electric guitar (chunky blues sound)
    fender american strat
    fender deville
    whirlwind director DI (plugged into amp out)
    fmr audio RNP

    electric guitar (reggae skank sound)
    steinberg paddle ore
    tech21 sansamp classic
    fmr audio RNP

    bass guitar:
    conklin groove tools 5-string
    tech21 sansamp bass DI
    fmr audio RNP
    for more of a jazz bass sound remove the sansamp

    acoustic guitar:
    yamaha 12-string
    shure sm81 pointed at 12th fret 12" from neck
    shure sm81 pointed at body angled toward hole 24" from body
    fmr audio RNP

    classical guitar:
    yamaha nylong string
    shure sm81 pointed at 12th fret 6" from neck
    audio technica 8033 over shoulder or 12" from body
    fmr audio RNP

    i put the mics closer for the classical because the sound doesn't travel as far... but watch for boominess.

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