Hopes of Metal,Solos,and Speed coming back strong...

myhatbroke

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So yea the question is whether the music will metalise again or not. My past two threads created contradcitons and rivalries. That is not my intentions for this one.
The structure of todays songs are just power chords or simple chord progressions. There is nothing complex about em. There is a few who are beginning to commercialise Metal again like Atreyu,Avenged Seven Fold,As I lay Dying, Black Label Society,etc. Do you think the 80's style will come back and more specifically the 80s metal?

Think about this. From the 80s to the 90s there were drastic changes but yet people still love 80s music and still do today. From the 90's to the 2000's there has been little change. Emo came out which is just a mix of alternative and punk with some pathetic lyrics, in my opinion.

Aside from all that 80s hasn't died. Why? Because metal hasn't died, which was developed in the 80's.So my theory is that the 80's was the climax in creativity and now with technoligical advancements we will go back to it and come up with even better music inspired by the 80s.

YOU give your opinion on this
 
Let's take those topics one at a time. I'll do solos:

The '80s were a zenith for solos, purely from a technical standpoint, as good melodies can be found in every era of rock. However, the '80s brought about the first time in the history of rock music that, by classical standards, rock guitarists didn't completely suck. Revolutionary ideas like, say, practicing, reading notation, and learning music theory became generally accepted.

It could have resulted in a lasting change, but it didn't. This is a complicated topic, but the realization that complex, technical solos did not arise organically within metal is important--such ideas were spawned in art/progressive rock of the '70s, and the blues-based solos slowly gave way to solos that were more classically melodic (or jazz-based in art rock, but less so in metal).

Unfortunately, that created a built-in backlash among fans of blues-based hard rock, who already derided progressive rock as pretentious.

Then when hair bands co-opted the metal sound, watered down and lyrically pussified, it seemed clear that the popular appeal of the genre would be limited.

The alternative/grunge revolution shouldn't be construed as a death knell for metal; it was a rejection of bubblegum, whether Top 40 or hair band, but at its essence, it was still melodic, albeit not virtuostically so. Thus it can be seen that good melodies will always remain popular.

In the intervening years, mainstream rock has neither solos nor decent vocal melodies, and is in bad need of resuscitation. But whence comes the next revolution? It is hard to see a direct return to the past, since the seeds of melodic metal are not sown, even within the genre.

Frankly, I think the tremendous advances in synthesis since the '80s make a return to a hypermodern new wave sound more likely . . .
 
I love BLS, and pretty much anything Zakk touches....he plays well, has a great tone, and writes some catchy stuff....I also was not dissapointed in the latest from Godsmack, and really liked Zombies latest.....anything with great songwriting, and great tones for me. I don't label any of it as "Heavy meatl", simply hard rock.....and I like it all....There's been some shit, but there always will be.
 
I've noticed a few of the new screamo bands are doing some kick butt solo's but mainly melodic rythem patterns.

I believe it's coming around again somewhat. I afraid that it will never be as good as the late 80's early 90's era where even alternative bands like PAW, Warrior Soul, and AIC were ripping solo's. Maybe one day A and R guys will wake up notice.

When times are bad I always pull out the classic Band of Gypsy's Jim H album and have my mind blown away by "machine gun". Holy cow I get chills every single time. I don't think the solo on that track could ever be redone.
 
gcapel said:
I've noticed a few of the new screamo bands are doing some kick butt solo's but mainly melodic rythem patterns.

I believe it's coming around again somewhat. I afraid that it will never be as good as the late 80's early 90's era where even alternative bands like PAW, Warrior Soul, and AIC were ripping solo's. Maybe one day A and R guys will wake up notice.

When times are bad I always pull out the classic Band of Gypsy's Jim H album and have my mind blown away by "machine gun". Holy cow I get chills every single time. I don't think the solo on that track could ever be redone.
Exactly, I think it will come back but unlike you said. Itll come back harder and better!
 
mshilarious said:
The alternative/grunge revolution shouldn't be construed as a death knell for metal; it was a rejection of bubblegum, whether Top 40 or hair band, but at its essence, it was still melodic, albeit not virtuostically so. Thus it can be seen that good melodies will always remain popular.

Grunge wasn't really a revolution to begin with, but was the next wave that rose when the other metal forms descended from popularity. STP, AIC, Sugartooth, Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, and many other Sub-pop label bands were simply taking what Sabbath started with "Master of Reality" and updating the form: a slower, heavier version of metal that was laced with the same style of solos that made Hetfield want to pick up the guitar begin with.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, most metal fans love Soundgarden's "Badmotorfinger", AIC's "Dirt" (which was Lars favorite album during its heyday), STP's "Core", and much of the catalog of bands like Kyuss and Helmet. Metal fans call it "Stoner Metal".

To the casual listener though, it's "Grunge", and this term-just like "Nu-metal"- was coined by those who liked this slower, heavier style but wanted to distance themselves from what the general public considers metal (big hair, spandex, guitar wankery), and what the more extreme fans consider metal (thrash, death, black metal, etc).
 
OK since no one is backing me up ill go ahead and say some more stuff.

Well I think that todays sound is alot better and thats really all the 80's bands needed. So now that we have headbangers ball again I treally do think its going to come back. Maybe in 5 years...
 
You're getting really worked up about a decade that you barely even lived in. Maybe you should chill out and go put on some old Slayer records or something.
 
Trends always come back around eventually. Of course it'll have it's time again. Hopefully when hair metal/cock rock starts becoming cool again I'll either be dead or senile. It was bad enough the first time.
 
warrengtype said:
Trends always come back around eventually. Of course it'll have it's time again. Hopefully when hair metal/cock rock starts becoming cool again I'll either be dead or senile. It was bad enough the first time.
Hahaha im not talking about hair metal. Im talking about thrash and speed metal
 
Personally I liked the 80's-90's rock/metal/thrash.......etc. I like music that have guitar solos, so I was a little disappointed when all these bands started coming out that didn't play solos. Not to say that their music was not good. I just like a good guitar solo, for inspiration if nothing else. but I admit that in the 80's-90's, guitar pyrotechnics got a little out of hand, and at some point seemed that anything that could be done with/to a guitar was done to it, and after seeing and hearing that kind of stuff for so long, things start to stagnate a little and become less interesting. But.....it's nice to see things come back in a way that resembles something we are familiar with. Hopefully it can be taken to another level that is equally as strong and mind blowing as it once was.
 
myhatbroke said:
From the 90's to the 2000's there has been little change. Emo came out which is just a mix of alternative and punk with some pathetic lyrics, in my opinion.

if u think "emo" came out in the 90's, you're saldy mistaken...
 
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