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    CLOUDLIFTER and a DURHAM mk2

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    I got the Cloudlifter from a suggestion here on HR, and I love it.
    Looking at adding another I tried the Cathederal Pipes Durham mk2 , more than 50% cheaper and great reviews too.

    Thought I'd add this,,,
    Both are similar designs, they are gain circuits from Ribbon mics put in a box, powered off +48v phantom, a no hassle ps cable free and take up no room on the desktop. Clean clean gain, invisible to tone is the design goal.

    >50% cheaper is the Durham mk2, so I can deal with that.
    It showed up in a small cardboard box like the Cloudlifter.
    Quickly noticed it doesnt have the weight of the Cloudlifter but its solid, like you could throw it on the ground and no problem solid...drive it over with a car and probably it will still work. The XLR are plastic, not the heavier metal type of the Cloudlifter. The huge let down was no rubber feet on the Durham...bummer...I need to go buy some $1.39 rubber feet.
    My RADIAL JDI has a XLR similar to the Durham, so the plastic vs metal will be fine in a HR environment.
    BUILD RATING: 4.5 of 5.........(Cloudlifter gets 5)

    Now plugged into my interface mic inputs, the DURHAM 2 supposedly has 5 db more. I dont know and am not running Oscope tests.
    Using my eyes on the meters and DAW waves and plugging in my SM58 and/or Fender P-Bass> JDI> DURHAM mk2....I feel there is a
    but of a sound difference more than Gain. I prefered the Cloudlifter more. It seemed fuller for me. Made sure all the cables were the same using the same everything but swapping the DURHAM mk2 and CL-1.
    SOUND rating: 4 of 5....sound is so subjective.

    I'd like to try the SOYUZ Launcher, its hyped as a Transformer design with intentional color. But I didnt plan on spending $600 on small boxes?
    To be honest, imo, the DURHAM mk2 is priced right to get 80% there, the CL-1 is $149, not $65....
    so in Cost DURHAM gets 5 of 5 points...cost is not subjective. Clouud gets 3 of 5 on cost
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    Currently, I only have one mic - a condenser, but I have been looking at an SM58/57 and could probably make use of a Durham MKII in the future.
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    oddly, I prefer the Cloudlifter....the subjective sound on the CL is just more pleasant to me. ..in a mix who knows? maybe I like blue better than white? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by spantini View Post
    ...and could probably make use of a Durham MKII in the future.
    ... or a Cloudlifter

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    relistening to my little comparison loop on bass guitar, Fender Precision US version...(.which was my intention for the Durham) and I dont care for it.

    The D actually came in 2nd to last place, above my PBAss> Line6 software,

    the JDI Radial >CL-1 came in 3rd.... the best results, include sound and also ease of use and ability to get a fat large wave without effort was the APHEX 207 preamp, not sure if I like the Bass DI in....or the JDI > Aphex 207 Mic In better.

    But what does a HR dude want when the mood hits to record? ....simplicity, ease to track and set levels fast, get a fat waveform that sounds good.

    relistening test also put the Durham below the CL, in this application with a JDI in front of the Booster. Maybe this is due to the difference of Z?
    either way, again, much prefer the Cloudlifter to the Durham. the CL is full while the Durham has a different tone....when it comes to Tone, to each their own.
    CL is double the cost but if you like the Durham sound maybe a $20 Behringer booster will work?

    Its funny how time takes off some of the GREAT RATING brain buzz....

    today I would list the Durham the same except in sound...reduce it to 3 of 5...with the Bass and JDI in front of it, maybe not even the units intentional application. As for the APHEX 207, I can add basically this unit is more in comparison to the interface preamps, not really the Cloudlifter or Durham.

    Setup:
    SM58 > Cloudlifter or Durham > Aphex 207 Mic In or Interface Mic preamp
    Fender P-Bass > JDI > Cloudlifter or Durham > Aphex 207 or Interface Mic preamp

    SM58> Aphex 207 Mic In (Line In on interface)
    Fender P-Bass > Aphex 207 DI in (Line In on interface)

    the SM58 > Cloudlifter > Aphex 207 mic in > Line Out to Line In on interface.....seemed to be preferred.
    Fender P-BAss > RADIAL JDI > Aphex Mic In> same.......................................preferred.


    I guess this says the interface preamps are a shade less than the outboard 207, and the CL is preferred over the Durham.
    My son could use a mic booster so probably will see what he thinks of the Durham Mk2....at $65..its not worth selling, shipping etc... its great price, great build.

    The more I think of the sound difference of the Durham and CL, is very likely the Impedance difference, I dont know?
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    I have to say, the only pieces in your post I am familiar with are the P bass and SM58 (gigs, not recording).

    So I'm having to do a lot of reading up on your other stuff. Just read an '02 review on the APHEX 207 preamp. Way above my payscale right now..

    Aphex 207 Tube Mic Preamp

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    I figure the U87 8mv/pa(-41db)......U87ai 28 mv/pa (-31.1db).....SM58 at 1.85 mv/pa(-54 db) + Mic Booster of +25db....gets the "volume" up to the U87ai level....the DURHAM mk2 +25db gain booster.

    Today and tonight I did a DURHAM mk2 test this time with vocal> SM58> into the boosters then into the 207 preamp(Line IN on the interface).

    The Cathderal Pipes DURHAM mk2 sounded really good. Now I get the positive reviews on this thing!

    It has a very silent circuit and in addition really pumps up the SM58 (SM7b) dynamic mics.
    At the $65 +shipping/tax its really where I would want to see these type pieces is a no brainer.
    Now I could give this a better rating in sound....making it really 4.5/5 type thing. So DURHAM booster ups its rating... COST is excellent $65+tx/ship, SOUND is excellent in this application, Build is excellent (and I added some rubber feet $1)
    totally different view of things tonight..er...morning.
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