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    Quote Originally Posted by Bguzaldo View Post
    ill try not to hit the snare like a school girl hahah.
    haha, btw, i didn't mean to insult you

    but I did want to mention that your playing technique can have a lot to do with it.

    The other guys did mention some good things.
    If you're using certain mics,
    they may not be rejecting a lot of outside noise.
    i5's and 57's are solid (enough) to reject outside noise decently.
    and yeah, get the mic pointing AWAY from the hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    You might be depending too much on your snare mic, instead of getting it mostly from your overheads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Supercreep View Post
    ^^^^^^^Win
    Thank you.

    I'm willing to bet $1,000,000 he simply has his snare mic way too loud.

    Question to the OP:

    How do you have your overhaeds configured??? That's THE MOST important part of micing your drums.

    If you're just throwing 2 mics up and then hoping you'll get a good snare sound by turning up your snare mic, that's the problem. Your snare should be loud enough in the overheads so that you BARELY NEED to turn up the snare mic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_L View Post
    Gate the snare.
    Really??? You do that, Greg???

    I've always found that to be a disaster for ghost notes, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    Really??? You do that, Greg???

    I've always found that to be a disaster for ghost notes, etc....
    I can't play ghost notes, never try, and they don't really fit my musical style, so that's kind of a moot point with me.

    I can see a gate destroying ghost notes though, so my gate recommendation is no good for you ghost-noters.

    I usually gate my snare because my room is bad and my hats are loud. I go easy on my hats, and my snare mic is pointed away from the hats as much as possible, but it still gets a bunch of hat in it. To my ears, the bleed screws up my overheads stereo image even with the snare track low in the mix, so I just gate it. Seems to work fine for now. You just need to be dilligent and careful with your gate settings so you don't cut the snare tone off too early.

    I'm just a basher with no real skills or technique, so maybe I'm not the best source of info on this. This is just how i do it and it works okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_L View Post
    I'm just a basher with no real skills or technique,
    Yeah, sure. Fuck off.


    Hehe.....I guess it's hard to do a ghost note when you're always motoring at 200bpm's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    Question to the OP:

    How do you have your overhaeds configured??? That's THE MOST important part of micing your drums.

    If you're just throwing 2 mics up and then hoping you'll get a good snare sound by turning up your snare mic, that's the problem. Your snare should be loud enough in the overheads so that you BARELY NEED to turn up the snare mic.
    I agree that the OH placement is critical, especially for those of us that mic using the Glyn Johns method (which is pretty much all OH's and kick). When I'm recording live drums, I use 2 AT2020's for OH - one hanging over the crash/snare/rack tom pointed at where the snare and bass drum meet, the other just outside the floor tom - about 12" above the floor tom batter and pointed back toward the rack tom.

    Someone posted some great pictures and instructions here: http://www.blaxploitation.com/drums/ Ironically, this fellow happens to use the exact same mic's and setup technique that I use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    Yeah, sure. Fuck off.


    Hehe.....I guess it's hard to do a ghost note when you're always motoring at 200bpm's.
    Lol. Yeah exactly. I got nothing against that kind of stuff, it just doesn't really fit my music. I am trying to learn that shit though. I've never had any kind of drum theory or lessons or anything, and I don't know a paradiddle from a flamma-wamma-ding-dong, so I'm thinking about taking some lessons from a pro. I just learned everything on my own and I'm sure I do just about everything wrong.

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    For those of you who don't know Greg and think he's as talentless as he's making himself sound here....The dude's a great musician and puts up some of the best stuff in the MP3 Clinic.

    And he's no hack as a drummer, either.

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    Lol. Aw shucks, thanks Rami.

    I didn't mean to sound so pitiful. I don't think I'm that bad, I've just had no formal training and I think I could use some. People talk about triplets and time sigs and stuff and I have no idea what that is.

    Anyway back on topic.

    Do what all these other guys say and then try the gate if you need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    Thank you.

    I'm willing to bet $1,000,000 he simply has his snare mic way too loud.

    Question to the OP:

    How do you have your overhaeds configured??? That's THE MOST important part of micing your drums.

    If you're just throwing 2 mics up and then hoping you'll get a good snare sound by turning up your snare mic, that's the problem. Your snare should be loud enough in the overheads so that you BARELY NEED to turn up the snare mic.
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