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    I tend to feel like if you're trying to make a stock mix of a VSTi drum work for you, you're probably trying to skip too many steps.
    All of these programs allow you to do much more complex routing than just stereo. Send all the channels in EZD or MT to separate tracks and mix them in your DAW. That way, you're in total control of how each part sits in your mix. (and you can get fancy with side-chaining, etc. if you need)

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    I found MTPDK to be pretty good, within its limitations. The fact that it only has one set of voices is limiting. I started playing around with pulling patterns out of MT, and feeding them to my Alesis SR18, but the drum maps are different, so I need to rework all of that.

    I'm not a drummer, and to be honest, my patience is tested when I have to sit and edit midi files. Given a choice, I would be setting up mics and hitting the record button while a real drummer was pounding away.

    The only other comment I will make is that doing little submixes of drums and reading the LUFS scale is TOTALLY POINTLESS!!! LUFS is only relevant to the finished track and is not even a universal standard number. There is no reason to try to make a submix track fit into an arbitrary number. This obsession with LUFS is creating a problem that doesn't exist.

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    There were alternate sources claiming if you go past a center level services turn it down. This level was in LUFs. So I was checking the tracks in lufs. I was rendering single tracks at that point.

    I was having numerous setup issues to boot.

    In my newbie thread, you suggested -16 dbfs as a record level. I thought I was being slick automatically normalizing them. Perhaps not.

    Then I had to convert that to lufs, in order to see if it will be turned down.

    So just dont worry about this stuff? Is it shit?

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    The recommendation to limit to -16dB TOP PEAK FULL SCALE is to insure that you are not exceeding 0dB on any peaks, especially stuff like drums, but similarly on vocals or anything else with a good amount of dynamics. If you are using 24 bit recording, you have a potential of 144dB range, so you really aren't losing anything significant in terms of signal to noise.

    Average loudness for a whole song is a totally different situation.

    I highly recommend that you read this blog:

    Production Advice – Mastering, Mixing, Recording, Music Production | Latest blog posts - Production Advice

    They have a lot of good information there about LUFS, PLR, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LazerBeakShiek View Post
    So just dont worry about this stuff?
    You don't have to worry too much about it. When messing around with tracks, the main game is focussing on the sound.

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    Is it shit?
    Not at all. It becomes important when messing around with a final mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko zzed View Post
    You don't have to worry too much about it. When messing around with tracks, the main game is focussing on the sound.
    Somethings up. I admit I have no computer skills. But I can play the instruments. Press the power button and plug and play things.

    I need a 1 HOUR private instruction over the phone or Skype. I will pay for your time.

    Must know how to use REaper, midi cnnections, Melodyne, drum software that can repeat a measure of, Exactly. As a test.

    Must know where the tabs are and what boxes to check.

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    Here is where I'm at. Playing some lazy chords on a midi controller. VSTs.

    In VCprojx, the wooden spoon on a frying pan was a poor choice as a percussive device.

    IsItWack, was a fantasy about R2-D2 partying in Dubai. Yup , that is a Kaoss pad.

    I used the BEAK force and let the Lufs fall where they may. No clipping though.
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    More 'Beak for yall.
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    I don't know if this vst suits you but I use the Boots n Kats Vst. Might not be that professional but I like it.
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