Hi, I know this is a pain, but I would appreciate some help. I have found most of the preset vocal settings to be mostly useless. However, being essentially a dunce at these things, I have been unable to tweak them to achieve anything like a really good vocal track. I have the old unupgraded vs840. Would someone mind sharing with me their settings to achieve a reasonably good vocal. I am not looking for anything bizarre - just vocal with good depth and presence and bite - what most people want in a vocal, reality, clarity - that rich "you are there" feeling - like good vocals on any professional, vocals front and center recording. If you like you can send it to me at lcarkuff@stny.rr.com. I would really appreciate this. please share with me both your type and your starting patch and your edits to the patch. I have the feeling I am not getting anything like the performance I should be able to get out of this machine. I can get something passable, but nothing sounding like the professionally recorded vocal I am looking for. Thanks very sincerely, doug carkuff