Windows 8 track 1 bleeding into track 2 CEP 2.1

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XZx Jose XZx

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I am having the problem known as track bleeding, where the instrumental on track 1 is bleeding into the vocal on track 2. I am using CEP 2.1 and I have searched far and wide on google and other forums including this one, and attempted the "fix" listed on the forums, to no avail. I am quite computer savvy yet I could be doing something incorrect. Most of them offer solutions for older operating system, please please please help. Here are my specs.

Computer:
Windows 8
Laptop, HP ENVY dv6 Notebook PC beats by dre
AMD A10-4600 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics 2.30 GHz
6.00GB of RAM
64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor

Soundcard:
AMD High Definition Audio Device
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
Realtek USB2.0 MIC

Interface:
Art Pro Audio USBMIX
ART Pro Audio

Thank in advanced for your time and efforts!!
 
I'm almost sure its an I/O setting and not my interface or sound card, can anyone please verify this for me before I go buying another interface to troubleshoot that problem. I've tried 3 different recording programs and still had the issues so I know it not my software.
 
As far as I can tell that's just how that ART Pro Audio USB Mix works. It's not designed for recording one track at a time.
 
CEP 2.1 is from the days of Windows 98 and XP and didn't do any of its own signal routing--it depended on the Windows mixer (or specialist mixer that came with some sound cards.

This was a common question even back then and the answer, inevitably, was to change the settings. Basically you had to have the Record mixer set to be on Mic In (or Line In) and not "What U Hear" or "Line Out" or "Stereo Mix" or any of a bunch of different names. Similarly, on the Playback mixer, fade down everything except Line Out so you're not listening to mic in or whatever on the playback.

Trouble is, I don't know what facilities either Windows 8 (arrrggghh...work of the devil when it comes to Audio) or you interface have. Check and see if you can find a mixer that can do the above but have a look for something similar.

However, an additional problem will be that CEP 2.1 also pre dates the move to use ASIO as the main driver so you're stuck with WDM/MME drivers which involve the Windows operating system.

Anyhow, have a look for a mixer and see if you can sort out the inputs and outputs.
 
Even though all that is true, it appears that mixer/interface can't separate what it plays through the headphone output from what it records via USB. No matter what you do with settings in Windows it will still record a mix of the live and playback signals. But I could be misinterpreting the manual so changing Windows' audio settings is worth a shot.
 
Sheeesh. If that's the case, I wonder why manufacturers insist on doing that. Surely they know it makes there interface more or less useless in a home studio.

Anyhow, since you have to use MME drivers in CEP anyhow, it might be possible to use the ART for the input and do you monitoring via the built in sound card. Far from idea (and latency could be a big issue) but worth seeing if you can make it work.
 
Thank you guys so much for your feedback, here within the next few days we are going to purchase a new interface and pawn shopping the pro audio. Honestly if this is really the issue I should jus throw the POS, and not leave it to the next poor sap to have the same problem I am having, but from what I gathered its still usable for instruments. So I guess its just up to the next guy to figure it out too lol. Again thank you guys and I will post my findings here even if the problem is fixed, for posterity.
 
On caution here...

The lack of ASIO on CEP 2.1 may make life awkward even with a new interface. The dedicated drivers for most new interfaces are ASIO and, while you can sometimes get them working with MME, you can often have issues with things like latency. As nice as 2.1 was, it may be time for an upgrade to your DAW too.
 
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