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    Does anyone else get a click noise at the start and stop point of a copy paste? It comes out in the recordings and is really annoying. I also hear the same click noise when I hit the stop button during playback.

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    That shouldn't happen unless you cut parts where there's a signal. If you cut and paste your parts where there is no level (zero crossing) that shouldn't happen. If you're doing it right and still have that problem, then there's something weird going on with your machine.

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    Is there a setting in the 2488 for crossfade? What I mean here by crossfade is that when you cut where there is signal instead of getting a sharp cut with sharp edges, the crossfade setting rounds the edges slightly and overlaps it and this does not cause a click. If you zoom right in you can see it in the edited waveform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witzendoz View Post
    Is there a setting in the 2488 for crossfade? What I mean here by crossfade is that when you cut where there is signal instead of getting a sharp cut with sharp edges, the crossfade setting rounds the edges slightly and overlaps it and this does not cause a click. If you zoom right in you can see it in the edited waveform.

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    Unfortunately, no cross-fade.

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    I did a test. I hit one guitar string and let it sustain. Did the same on another track. Took a piece from one track and pasted it into the other track at same time location. Click is at beginning and end of paste. Does this sound normal? If it is, how are you supposed to repair a bad note? Even if you paste in quietest location of a lead for example, there will still be some sound signal.

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    Yes, that's normal. It's impossible for both notes to decay exactly the same. You can't just paste a part in the middle of a sustain and not expect it to click. This isn't a drawback of the 2488, pretty much any machine or software will give you the same results. If you want to repair a note, you either have to hope there's some silence before and after it...or, punch in and out somewhere where there's silence before and after the part you want to correct. So you might have to play more than just the actual part you want to fix.

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    I would expect a change in sound, not a click noise from the recorder that was not there to begin with. My old Roland VS880 never did that. So it sounds like there is nothing wrong with my recorder and they all do that? I did notice that you do not get the click at start and stop of recording, just editing.

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    Well, without hearing it, I can't say for sure. If you say you ALWAYS get a click and didn't get it with the Roland, then maybe there is something wrong with your machine, it's hard to say. You're right, it's not normal for it to always "pop" on an edit unless the edit is made where there's quite a bit of volume.

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    Just back to my crossfade thing, if you can zoom in and slightly crossfade the ends of the edit manually, this will prevent the click you can hear. The crossfade can be very short and you actually wont hear it crossfade, it prevent the click by eliminating the sudden break in the audio which is whats causing the click. I do a similar thing when editing audio in vegas to prevent clicks. My Tascam MX2424 has a setting for this to happen automatically, it rounds the ends of the edits and has a small crossfade where you join 2 edits together.

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    How would I crossfade with the neo? You mean like a split second fade and overlap at the edit ends? Or more like a split second silence space in between?

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