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    Cool Edit 32-bit Wave audio, how do I burn onto CD?

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    Hey there...

    I've just been recently recording some music that I've made myself by mixing it in Cool Edit Pro 2.0. Everything has gone really well and I've managed to get the mixdowns sorted. I've recorded all the tracks in the following quality:

    IEEE Float (0.24 float type 3) 48000 Hz, 32-bit, Stereo Wave Audio

    ... And they sound great! but one problem, I can't burn them onto a CD?? My CD burner seems fine but my burning software won't allow me to add the tracks for the CD layout, I'm using Nero 6 (also just tried Nero 7 (doesn't seem to work even though it says so in a review I read somewhere)) and I'm now stuck as I don't know what to do in order to get my music onto a CD in this high 32-bit quality...

    Would be grateful if somebody could help me sort this out...

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    MixieScratchie

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    It depends on what you want to achieve.

    Do you want:

    1. To listen to the audio? Such as on a CD player?
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    2. To archive the audio .wav file?


    If you want to do #1, you have to first convert the audio to 16-bit, 44.1kHz in Cool Edit.
    CD audio is standard at that format, you can't change that.
    Also when you do that conversion, you will want to enable "dithering" for quality purposes (but is not required).
    Then open Nero and burn it to an Audio CD.

    If you want to do #2, you need to tell Nero that you want to burn a Data CD, not an Audio CD.

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    To be honest I don't wanna do either, I don't like the quality of 16-bit wave, I've made them before and I just think they sound nasty. What I want to achieve is 32-bit quality so when I listen on the CD player I have it sounds very professional..

    ...Nero 7 claims to be the latest version that will record in that format I quoted before, 32-bit, so why doesn't it work, software design fault? Cool Edit itself records at that bitrate so why am I having trouble trying to find a piece of software that will burn at the same quality, I've gotta admit that 32-bit is much richer than 16-bit and is a whole lot overall more better!

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    Even if you were able to get Nero to burn a 32-bit, 48kHz CD-Audio file (impossible anyhow).
    It would not work on any CD player.
    The only way you can play that kind of audio is on a computer.

    With that said. The difference between 32-bit 48kHz and 16-bit 44.1kHz audio should be almost impossible to detect. As long as the conversion was properly dithered to prevent aliasing. If you don't dither. You can hear the aliasing by ear, and it does sound like crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixieScratchie
    To be honest I don't wanna do either, I don't like the quality of 16-bit wave, I've made them before and I just think they sound nasty.
    When have you ever heard anything else in 32 bit 48khz? My gut says you have not. ALL CD's that you listen to at your house, in your car, in your discman etc.... are at 16bit 44.1khz or some sort of compression format that is even lower in quality. The only time that you will hear audio that is any higher than those specs is on a DVD or a hard disc itself (and not some song you download from I-Tunes either).
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    I appreciate your comments but I'm not totally convinced, how do I know that you guys know exactly what you're talking about? I'm quite sure that when a professional recording artist makes a CD it's much greater quality than this 16-bit that you're talking about...

    .... I've been messing around making CDs for years now and when you buy an original and listen to it you can hear that it's much better than one created say for example in Cool Edit at 16-bit wave otherwise why have 32-bit anyway?

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    OK, so I guess there is no way to record 32-bit wave audio onto CD.. there should be but there isn't! Which kinda sucks really...

    ... How do I now change my 32-bit audio tracks to 16-bit then from 32-bit, do I use Cool Edit Pro to do that or something else instead? I want them to sound right of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixieScratchie
    I appreciate your comments but I'm not totally convinced, how do I know that you guys know exactly what you're talking about? I'm quite sure that when a professional recording artist makes a CD it's much greater quality than this 16-bit that you're talking about...

    .... I've been messing around making CDs for years now and when you buy an original and listen to it you can hear that it's much better than one created say for example in Cool Edit at 16-bit wave otherwise why have 32-bit anyway?
    Why have 32-bit? Well the main reason is headroom for mixing. If you used a bunch of 16-bit audio files, you would higher noise, and less resolution while mixing.
    Then when you mix it down, you leave it as 32-bit (or 24-bit) for mastering. At the tail end of mastering the audio will become 16-bit 44.1kHz.

    It's called the "red book" standard, and that's just the way it is.

    Do some reading here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Boo...o_CD_standard)
    And here for a more broad read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixieScratchie
    I appreciate your comments but I'm not totally convinced, how do I know that you guys know exactly what you're talking about? I'm quite sure that when a professional recording artist makes a CD it's much greater quality than this 16-bit that you're talking about...

    .... I've been messing around making CDs for years now and when you buy an original and listen to it you can hear that it's much better than one created say for example in Cool Edit at 16-bit wave otherwise why have 32-bit anyway?
    Every recording artist in a professional studio is creating a product that is 16-bit at 44.1Khz in quality.

    How do I know? I've been working in this business for 7 years now, and I've worked with many artists in professional studios and in home studios.

    Regardless of what bit depth they record and mix at, the final product is always 16-bit at 44.1Khz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixieScratchie
    OK, so I guess there is no way to record 32-bit wave audio onto CD.. there should be but there isn't! Which kinda sucks really...

    ... How do I now change my 32-bit audio tracks to 16-bit then from 32-bit, do I use Cool Edit Pro to do that or something else instead? I want them to sound right of course
    I'll tell you from memory.

    Go to the menu (I think File, or Edit), and find "Convert Sample Type".

    Then select all the options, stereo, 16-bit, 44.1kHz, and use dithering.

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