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Mixer With 8 Direct Outs

ok im getting one of these: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/702330/

this souncard has 8 unbalanced inputs, so to get the 8 inputs to work with mics i´d need 8 pre´s or a mixer with 8 direct outs, right? which would come out better, and is there a mixer under $200 with the 8 direct outs?
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p.s. the cheaper, the better. i dont mind using behringer equipment.
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I use an Alesis 12R with has 8 mic inputs and I use the inserts as direct outs, I like it. I got the old model around 250$. under $300 is a more reasonable request of a 8 channel mixer. You may want to try the new line of yamahas and the M-series soundcrafts, those are both cheap and get good reviews by members here.
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p.s. the cheaper, the better. i dont mind using behringer equipment.
Good grief!!

Just because a particular unit is cheap, it does not alone mean it's a quality piece of equipment. You may save X-amount of dollars compared to another product's in it's category,but in the long run, one will realize the limitations of that particular unit and wished they would have saved a few $$$ more obtaining that item that would afford better perf and quality. Especially when it comes to Behringer.
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Cool

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...base_id/104927

http://www.carvin.com/cgi-bin/Isearc...P2=SM162&P1=MX
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So, the inserts work the same as direct outs, or is this just a way to get around? so if a mixer has in the back 8 inserts, instead of 8 DI´s, it will work? i think that would simplify things.

by the way, i just dont like kiddin myself, if i cant afford over $250 i aint gonna fool myself!! with the DSP2000 soundcard on its way thats already around $470+. i guess behringer has an appealing crowd, and that would be broke youngsters such as me.
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the instert thing will work too. I bought a MX2642 Behringer mixer (smallest with direct outs) but within the second year two channel died on me (

btw I'm using a DSP2000 as well, and i'm ebaying for a second one, I like those things. the pre's on the DSP2000 are better than the behringer ones, even though they're not really good- anything outboard will outperform them.

Next on the wish list are some new mics and then I'll start into the preamp-shopping-thing.


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Look at a Soundcraft Spirit M8 ?

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M8 is gonna be around $550- $600- probably a bit over your price range- but Im very happy with mine (and the behringer became a headphone mixer)
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That Yamaha mixer is a good suggestion, I'd take that any day over a Behringer mixer. I've checked them out and the Yamaha's are really pretty decent for the price. My brother has that Carvin mixer and I thought it was noisy, I wasn't that impressed with it. I don't think you can do better than the yamaha for under $300, that is, for new gear.

The other option is to find a Mackie CR 1604 used. I'm not sure what they are running these days, but it would be around that price point, and they do have 8 true direct outs. It's a solid mixer.
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hey, would this work?

http://www.behringer.com/02_products...DI800&lang=eng
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Actually, i think this is exactly what i was looking for:

http://www.behringer.com/02_products...A8000&lang=eng


but was wondering if this would....

http://www.behringer.com/02_products...MX882&lang=eng
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The first one would. Technically, the 2nd one would too, because it has 6 ins & outs, and the C-Port has 2 built-in mic pre's (I own one myself). The built-in pre's aren't so hot though - not much headroom and they break up if you need to add a lot of gain.

You might want to look at the M-Port too - it's basically a C-Port with built-in pre's and balanced inputs (check out the pre's first though - I'm not sure if they're the same as the 2 on the C-Port).
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I know i"m gonna get pounded for this, but...
...I love my Behringer UB1832 pro mixer. For $250 it's a lot of bang for the buck, and quiet as a mouse. I know Behringer is hit or miss, and I wouldn't suggest Behringer if you were looking for top end with a nice size budget, but the UB series of mixers are nice. If you are lookng for under $300, and the budget says you need a lot for a little...it's worth checking out.
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oooooooo.... you said the "B" word. I'm tellin!

Actually, I started off with a Beh 8 channel mixer. It wasn't as bad as everybody said it was. I've heard stories about them falling apart, but mine seemed to be pretty tough - never any reliability problems, and it was quiet as a mouse. The "discreet" pre's were what I didn't like - they weren't very discreet if I needed to add a significant amount of gain, or if I was running condensers. Short of that, it was just fine with most of my dynamics (not "great", just "fine").
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If you get the ADA 8000 you should make sure you have a sound card that has an ADAT lightpipe input. Since the ADA 8000 has the converters, there's not a lot of sense in paying for them again in the sound card. So maybe there's a soundcard out there with a couple AD/DA converters, plus ADAT lightpipe input? That would work well with the ADA 8000. Or maybe a digital mixer with an ADAT input.
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ok this might sound silly, but what is an ADAT lightpipe? just so i can keep up to the converastion.
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Alesis the maker of the ADAT recorder has an interface using fiber optic signal that transfers 8 channels of audio plus some sync info. Many other pieces of equipment have gone to this interface and its become one of the more or less standard digital multitrack standards.

I have used it here for ADAT to PC transfers and also on one of my hard disk recorders. Several mixing board makers offer it as a standard component or as an add on interface.
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whoa. this mixer/splitter is EXACTLY what i was thinking about last night... Anyone else make something like this? Preferably with digital in/out like the Beh?
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Lightbulb

http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/Layla24/index.php
Just an idea, but it seems like it might be a little less expensive in the long run.
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