Routing in cubase

[rockem]

hello all,

I need help with routing signals in cubase for :

1. Routing two channels into a single streo compressor

2. Routing Two input channels into a single audio track

thanx

[Blue Bear Sound]

1 - create a bussing subgroup, set the output to each track to that subgroup - add any effects to the group.

2 - you'd have to combine them before they appear at the INs of your designated Cubase inputs. Without more details of your system, it's impossible to say...

[rockem]

Why can't I assign whatever input i want to whatever track ??

I need it to record synths mostly, since it outputs stereo signal

on my VS1824 I can do it in a press of a button
just assign let say inputs 4 and 5 to track 1 and you done

Can't I do something similar in cubase ?

thanx

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally posted by rockem
Why can't I assign whatever input i want to whatever track??

You can.... if that's what you were asking, you phrased your question badly....

Originally posted by rockem
I need it to record synths mostly, since it outputs stereo signal

That's fine - as long as you have at least 2 inputs defined in Cubase, you can record a stereo track....

Originally posted by rockem
on my VS1824 I can do it in a press of a button
just assign let say inputs 4 and 5 to track 1 and you done

Can't I do something similar in cubase ?

Well - that really isn't assigning inputs, that's more like SUMMING two inputs together - which is a mixing process.... so while your 1824 seems to have given you a shortcut, that's not a typical routing path to use without the flexibility of mixing the signals. For example, WHY do you even need to blend 2 tracks this way in the first place - send them each to a single track and you can blend them as much as you like in the s/w??! (This would be the more flexible and appropriate approach - rather than the equivalent of a misused "Y" cable that the 1824 is allowing... it is bad practice to sum outputs to a single input without use of a mixer.)

[Kryogh]

I almost never record something on a single stereo track. I prefer to have 2 single tracks. Way more mix/fx/whatever possibilities this way!

..hmm well, I have too admit I just realize I may be rong cuz I almost never used a stereo track! In fact, I'm pretty shure I never created one since Cubase 3.5 !

maybe I should at least try it :|

[Blue Bear Sound]

The only time I find it convenient is when editing - you don't have to select 2 tracks to do an edit, you can operate only on the one track...

[rockem]

I think you didn't understand me

Lets say I want to record piano, but I want it on a mono track

So .. how do I do it ? me jv1010 sends stereo signal and if I record only one I will lose some sounds

I want to sum it to a mono track, and you're right its just like a Y cable

Can I do it ?

thanx

[Blue Bear Sound]

But that's my point, a Y cable is not appropriate in this case.... you can use a Y cable to branch an output from 1 to 2 signals, but you NEVER use a Y cable to sum 2 outputs to 1 input.

To convert your stereo track to mono, you record to 2 separate tracks and pan them to center. This way you can have them either way....

[Kryogh]

And, do you think it will sound the same way on a mono track than on a stereo track???

Or it's just a question of panning of the keyboard? lows are out a left and highs to right?

[rockem]

I'm all confuse right now

My jv1010 output stereo track, and I want to record it on a single
mono track .. I don't need two tracks or a stereo one

I used to do it all the time on the VS-1824

is there a way ? a simple one ?

p.s. - another thing that annoys me, why when I click on a track
it always puts it in record mode !! is there a way to disable it ??

thanx

[Kryogh]

Well the only way I can see, is to get the famous Y from the keyboad to one input of the soundcard :| You obviously cant assign 2 different inputs to a single channel in Cubase. (or any other pc sequencer, as far as I know)

For the Record enable thing...

File / Preferences / Editing /

uncheck "Enable Record on Selected Trak"

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally posted by Kryogh
Well the only way I can see, is to get the famous Y from the keyboad to one input of the soundcard

sorry, no.... again, you don't sum signals with a Y cable - it is BAD - don't do it!

You sum signals with a mixer.


rockem - I don't understand why you don't want to send the stereo output to 2 separate tracks in Cubase, then you can do what you want!

But in any case, most keyboards provide both stereo output and a mono output (typically at the left output - which means you connect only the left side to get a mono output...) You're making this far more of an issue than it is, and it really is not a failing of Cubase at all -- it's your understanding of interconnectivity that's the issue!

[Kryogh]

Blue Bear Sound is absolutely right, a mixer is a way better idea than the Y cable!

sorry

I'm a bad guy ...hit me.

BUT IM RIGHT for the preferences thing so... dont hit too hard!

[Blue Bear Sound]

[rockem]

How do I sum the two channels into one on the mixer ?

How do I turn a stereo channle into a mono one ?

thanx

ps - thanx for the fast replies so far )

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally posted by Blue Bear Sound
....most keyboards provide both stereo output and a mono output (typically at the left output - which means you connect only the left side to get a mono output...)....

Did you check this?


Anyways, a mixer, by definition - sums signals together. Throw up the faders on multiple tracks and the summed signal of those tracks appear at the mixer's outputs (or a buss, if your mixer is more sophisticated).

[rockem]

I will be more specified

I have a recorded stereo track .. how can I turn it into mono ?

thanx

[Blue Bear Sound]

Pan both channels to center position.......

[dafduc]

Pan both sides to the same location. It will still "BE" a stereo track, but it will behave exactly like like a mono track.

If you have a wave editor, you can convert the track to mono. I don't know if Cubase's internal wave editor will do this, but Sound Forge will. Acid Pro forces me to do this, 'cos it can't record in mono (???). Lame.

Daf

[rockem]

How can I pan both cjannels to the center if its a stereo track ??

I have only one pan ....

Are we sync at all ?

[Kryogh]

Well, I wasnt in sync... sorry, probabely my bad english


So, no, you cant in Cubase. well if someone know how, I'll be glad to learn something new!

Go in Wavelab, or Sound Forge, or...x... and you 'll be able to merge your stereo waves.

[Blue Bear Sound]

In Cubase - there's a "Convert channels" audio process you can apply to convert a stereo track to mono.......

[Kryogh]

Rockem, here is the solution:

Right-click on you stereo file,
chose the "process" then "stereo flip" options.

In "stereo filp" choose "merge"

[Kryogh]

And my first toughts were : what tha hell...this doesnt work!

...It works. It doesn't convert your track and channel in a mono one, but it build a mono copy on both side so, it's a "mono" track, with a stereo look :|

And it still tell you "mono/stereo mismatch" if you simply try to convert the track with the "0" "00" thing. :|

anyway, is it ok?

[Blue Bear Sound]

Sorry - yes... Kry's right... I meant "Stereo Flip"... "Convert Channels" is in Sound Forge!

doh!!!!!!!!