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Recorded Heavily Distorted Guitar

Hey folks, I just wanted to let y'all know that i recorded my guitar... heavily distorted and it sounds really good.

I actually just went straight from my Digitech RP300 into my mixing board, then into the soundcard. It has stereo effects
so I just connected the left and right output and hardpanned them. Mind you I did use an amp modeller effect. I modelled a Vintage 2 x 12 (which is what I have by the way) and it sound very very close to the sound coming from my amp.

I think really the only thing it needs is a little bit of reverb/ambience and it's good to go. Possibly a mic model (antares mic modeller) would do well, but we'll see.

Anyways, it's the cleanest best sounding recording I've gotten.

Just thought I would share.
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Re: Recorded Heavily Distorted Guitar

bastard... ive been fuckin with my new amp for a week now cant get good sound. i had a 10 watt crate and i understood it was trash. so i bought a 500 dollar marshall 50 watt amp. im using a shure sm58 into a MX1604A behringer mixer into my sound blaster. is it just a matter of mic placement now?
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Oops. Replied to your original post before I saw this one. Good to hear you're happy with your results. Don't give up micing, though. You can find great sounds with condenser mics.
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Yeah... I am thinking I am going to run another take micing with my condenser... I do like the amp sound much better than going straight in. I'm gonna experiment with it today... I might use a condenser and a dynamic and see how that goes... hard-panned to each side so that I can really hear the difference and go from there.
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Outlaw,

I've actually gotten some pretty good recording with micing my amp... I use a condenser and put it about a foot away from the speaker cone straight out from the edge of the speaker... and angle it 45 degrees at the center. I usually mix this with a direct signal as well. Good luck. I know you can get good sound from that amp, I have recorded a friends band with one...
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i dont have a condenser tho. the only mic i got is a dynamic shure sm58. and ill try that on a 45 degree angle thing, thanks
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Try taking the wind screen off the sm58.
Fool around with mic placement. You should be able to find a sweet spot.
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does the digitech have a 12ax7 tube pre in it? i had an rp6 a few years back that did and it sounded pretty good straight into the mixer, from what i'm getting you need a preamp or good mic's to get that heavy metal sound...

i managed to get very close yesterday using an old fender twin reverb miced with 2 m58's, the sound was tighter than a non preamp effects box straight in the mixer, but i had to tweak the track on the bottom end and top just a bit with a plugin eq/maxamizer...

i believe studio guitar tracks are eq or sonicly tweaks pretty much for CD sales, the bottom end is lost in most live gig/songs from what i heard...
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The first thing that might help, which i got this from people off of forums is.....
eq the recorded guitar
cut 7khz and cut around 200-350 hz
then i like to boost around 4khz
and boost a little of around 800
what ever sounds good. i do it a little differntly everytime i eq a guitar to make it sound good.

second Reverb should be illegal to use on guitars
also if you do use reverb u dont wanna record with it. u wanna record it dry then add a reverb plugin...
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Anybody that's having problems with recording distorted guitars (or just wants more info on it) should go check out this amazing thread:

http://recpit.prosoundweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=7486
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Sounds like the guy knows what he's talkin' about.Unfortunatly, I don't.He should drop the comedy routine so the reader can acually learn something and stop rippin' on the 'hack' musicians putting money in his pocket.
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True, but I still got quite a bit from it. New things to try out next time, at least.
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i dont have a condenser tho. the only mic i got is a dynamic shure sm58. and ill try that on a 45 degree angle thing, thanks
the mic used the most BY FAR in recording guitars, in a professional level studio or a bedroom is the shure sm57, not an expensive condensor. don't think buying an expensive mic will fix your problem. try different mic placements, maybe (if not definately) new preamps, etc etc etc. experience and experimentation will be the most important factors, not gear.
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Re: Re: Recorded Heavily Distorted Guitar

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bastard... ive been fuckin with my new amp for a week now cant get good sound. i had a 10 watt crate and i understood it was trash. so i bought a 500 dollar marshall 50 watt amp. im using a shure sm58 into a MX1604A behringer mixer into my sound blaster. is it just a matter of mic placement now?

Honestly?
Yes, Place the Behringer in the trash can and replace the Blaster card. Unless you have a decent mic pre for that sm58 into the mixer, the Behringer pre's will be counter-productive to mic placement. If that's not possible, just live with the consequences of your purchases and make good songs.

I have an Audiophile 24/96 card in my PC and It trashes my guitar tone everytime I think about trying to track to the PC. I track to 1/2 inch and its fine...go figure? Cheap Pre's and Cheap converters make things pretty frustrating. Write good songs and make no excuses about the gear.

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does the digitech have a 12ax7 tube pre in it?
If there is, they're not advertising it... *shrugs*
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If there is, they're not advertising it... *shrugs*
might have been an rp7, donno, didn't keep it long...

i did hear a nice difference using a pre tube fx DI...
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tube pre's make a lot more difference than most people give them credit for. Everyone slams the hybrid models, saying "but you need the tube power amp section", but man, I'd take a some of those hybrids over a standard solidstate anyday.
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