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Old 07-31-2003
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doubling vocals

hello again i ussually double tracks by dragging a file to a new track and delay it by 1600 samples or so and today it just occured to me that i might be creating phase problems by doing this. since technically both were recorded at the same time, i don't need to flip the phase on the slightly delayed track, right?
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that is a classic home recording trick. i've never liked it too much. i prefer two seperate takes for doubling vocals. if you delay it 1600 samples i think you would have some pretty noticable phase problems. just switching the polarity might not help you much. i guess try it and see what you think, but i wouldn't think you'd be happy with the sound.
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Why not just use a delay plugin? Thats probably an easier way to play around with delay times.

Anyway, you're only delaying it by about 36ms, so flipping the polarity probably will make phase problems much worse, esp in the low end. The delay is going to cause phase issues, ie constructive or destructive interference at certain frequencies, but thats probably why you like how it sounds.
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I tried this once, and it sounded good to me... for about a week. Unfortunately, I rendered it to wav and accidentally deleted the original wav, so I had to rerecord my vocal, which took five hours.

I learned my lesson about this trick: if I'm going to do it, hang on to the original .wav .
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Re: doubling vocals

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hello again i ussually double tracks by dragging a file to a new track and delay it by 1600 samples or so and today it just occured to me that i might be creating phase problems by doing this. since technically both were recorded at the same time, i don't need to flip the phase on the slightly delayed track, right?
Hard pan them both left and right and you should have the phase issues cleared up. I've done this before mixing a rap song and have had very cool results.
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