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07-30-2003
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How do I get a professional sound at home?
Right now I am running acid/sound forge with a 20 dollar radio shack mic. So basically it is a piece of welfare but I am just curious how I can get a professional sounding album at home? I have made some songs that sound pretty good but they do not have that awesome sound that professionally recorded artists have. It sort of sucks that so many people that cannot sing at all are pro's just because of the awesome equipment available today. Anyways anyone have any suggestions or recording tips for me? Thanks in advance!
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Helluva first post there!
It basically covers the entire topic that this board's about. In all seriousness I suggest you get onto google, type in words about recording - and read like hell. Then, when you've got a more specific question, someone here might be able to help you - I'd read everything on this board too. Good luck.
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Read all you can WeedHopper. But, to clarify something, pros aren't pros because equipment by ANY stretch of the imagination. Garbage in/ garbage out. Good gear hepls make a great artist better but a Neumann and a Neve and a monkey just captures a monkey with hi dollar gear.
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OK here's my oppinion...
#1 buy a better microphone....$75.00 and up.... (SM57 or better)
#2 buy a Tube Preamp ....$100 and up (You get what you pay for) Each item will improve your sound quality nearly 100% #3 Buy an even better Microphone (Condensor, Ribbon etc) $1000.00 and up #4 Buy an even better Preamp $2000.00 and up The most important thing is getting a good signal to tape (or Hard disc) and that means Microphones and Preamps. Big time studios have $100,000.00 to spend on the best "FRONT END" (Mic's and Pre's) #5 Buy a 2" Reel to Reel Analog multitrack tape machine and Neve recording console.... Dream on..... I'm drooling all over the keyboard now thanks alot.... Dom 
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Re: OK here's my oppinion...
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 No. Keep it simple. Avoid effects. Aim to always sound like one perfect take; weed out all that does not make the song better. Never do things "just because you can". Think what you do, be ready to scrap all that doesn't work. It really don't matter, if only means of recording you've got is a telephone answering machine. But you've got to work with the medium. If you've got an answering machine, then build your recording as a "true story out of an answering machine". Got it? Well, good luck. And remember, being pro is nothing but half a state of mind and half a responsibility of what you do. Plus some knowledge, too. Or at least good intuition... Happy recordings, Slabrock
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I have to say, RADIO SHACK HAS GOT TO GO!!! I purchased an Oktava MK319 mic and an Event preamp to start off with for vocals. I believe Musicians Friend has that mic on sale now for about $100, and you would NOT believe the difference you will hear when you make the jump. What are you looking to do? Vocals? Guitar? Mic amps?
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You don't need expensive gear.
I recently bought some decent gear to upgrade, but Ive done tracks that came out beautifuly with radio shack material. www.soundclick.com/allornothinent Listen to "Nore Nothing remix" I belive thats the name, anyways that was done with a $9.99 mic, and cool edit 2.0 Nothin fancy, its all in the mix.
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You can make great music with cheap gear but professional quality sound cost $$$. There is no way around that.
You can get by easier with electronic music but if you are actually micing instruments then money talks.
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A lot of the stuff I have recorded comes out sounding pretty good but does not have that professional sound. Haha yah I know quit e apost it covers a lot of subjects. What do you guys think about pro tools?
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This is true. The only way you are going to get a good sound is to get good equipment. The sound you have got through your Radio Shack mic may have sounded good to you, but go get even a cheaper condenser mike, like a Rhode or an Oktava and believe me, you'll never look back...
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07-30-2003
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Re: How do I get a professional sound at home?
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I just made a make-shift brick wall in the very back of my basement the other week, but somehow, it just didn't look quite as slick as some work I've seen done by a professional mason. I've also got quite a collection of photographs I've taken through the years, and even the stuff done with really good cameras and film doesn't quite have the same polish as a lot of the work I've seen published in books and/or magazines. The rice I cooked last night for my shrimp stir fry really sucked, by the way. Way too mushy. Not anything like a lot of nice restaurants I frequent. Yuck. Anyway, are you noticing any similarities/parallels to your situation here? Learn. Study. Ask questions. Read books. Take classes. Intern, etc. Last edited by chessrock; 07-30-2003 at 13:40..
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Sorry to get on a rant, here, but I think one quality a lot of people underestimate a lot is attitude.
Just like with anything else in life, those who have the perfectionist's attitude will more often achieve the results they're looking for -- or at least the odds are more in their favor. Let's look at an example . . . how about the snare drum? Suppose you take two guys of equal ability and knowlege. Give them a snare, some mics, and something to record on, etc. and give them a day or so . . . and when they're done, judge and compare the results or their snare tracks. My guess is the guy with the the perfectionist's attitude will spend the bulk of those couple days listening to dozens of reference CD's with good snare sounds. He'll probably go to the local bookstore/library and read up on snares. He'll call friends of his who are good drummers and ask them how to properly tune a snare. He'll hop on line and type in google searches like "snare micing," "snare tracking," "snare tuning," "snare techniques." He'll hop on gearslutz . . . or maybe even risk the humiliation of mixerman's goons . . . and post a question like: "What kind of compression ratios, attack times, etc. do you like to apply to the snare?" etc. Basically, he'll religate himself to an audio nerd. And when all is said and done, he'll get the better snare track. Because he has the better attitude. He has the bordering-on-obsessive will to get the best results in what he's doing. If he continues on with this attitude, eventually he will very likely be a successful, perhaps even wealthy recording engineer -- though it might take a few years, because he has the attitude. And if he doesn't, he'll probably be very successful at whatever else he chooses to do instead.
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chessrock: You are very correct. The difference between an engineer and guy recording music is attitude. The guy recording music will never take the time to learn the best ways to do it, he'll just sit on his butt priding himself in the fact that he "didn't even go to school to learn how to do this." Granted, not everyone should go to school for it. I mean if you are a guy who's only going to record his electric guitar, then that's cool, but at least take the time to learn how to do it well.
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Moral of the story is rock stars aren't the only ones who get the babes.  Interesting observation: If you want to date/marry supermodels, then you have a better chance if you're a (aging?) frontman for a popular rock band. If you want to date/marry attractive female recording artists, then you have to be their producer.
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