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[rvf263]

I'm using an Synth keyboard and want to purchase a good program for Midi Sequencing. I've been looking at H.S. but noticed that it does not have:

No pro midi editing.

No sysx editing.

No global control panel to integrate midi compatible control surfaces.

Will any of these things pose a problem to me if/when I use my synth with H.S.?

Thanks for helping.

[brzilian]

Originally posted by rvf263
I'm using an Synth keyboard and want to purchase a good program for Midi Sequencing. I've been looking at H.S. but noticed that it does not have:

No pro midi editing.

No sysx editing.

No global control panel to integrate midi compatible control surfaces.

Will any of these things pose a problem to me if/when I use my synth with H.S.?

Thanks for helping.

One word - NO

[Aaron Cheney]

I'm not sure what you mean by "pro MIDI editing", but HR has everything you would need for sequencing.

Aaron
http://www.voodoovibe.com

[brzilian]

Originally posted by Aaron Cheney
I'm not sure what you mean by "pro MIDI editing", but HR has everything you would need for sequencing.

Aaron
http://www.voodoovibe.com

HS doesn't have Groove Quantizing like Sonar does. That is one of the things they mean by pro MIDI editing.

[rvf263]

Aaron, I was looking at the H.S./Sonar compare chart on their website and it showed Sonar having "midi pro editing" and H.S. having basic editing.

Anyway, thanks for the info. I just wanted to make sure before I purchased H.S.

[moskus]

Originally posted by brzilian
HS doesn't have Groove Quantizing like Sonar does. That is one of the things they mean by pro MIDI editing.

When I think of "Pro MIDI editing" I think "don't like quantising, and Groove Quantizing should burn". I wouldn't consider Groove Quantise to be "pro". It's just a handy feature...

[BluesMeister]

You'll have to forgive my ignorance regarding Groove Quantising, so what on earth is Groove Quantising?

I can certainly quantise with HS to any given note length. But how do you quantise to a groove???

I thought grooves had disappeared with vinyl records.

With the advent of CDs, maybe it should be called Pit Quantising?

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BluesMeister

[moskus]

It's a way of quantizing with pre-made quantise patterns, making the quantised sound more human and less quantised.

[brzilian]

Originally posted by BluesMeister
You'll have to forgive my ignorance regarding Groove Quantising, so what on earth is Groove Quantising?

I can certainly quantise with HS to any given note length. But how do you quantise to a groove???

I thought grooves had disappeared with vinyl records.

With the advent of CDs, maybe it should be called Pit Quantising?

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BluesMeister

On older drum macvhines it was called "human feel" or "swing".

Its actually a pretty cool feature - you can use some other kind of MIDI clip and Sonar will take certain timing and velocity nuances from it and apply them to something else.

[Aaron Cheney]

GQ is sort of like "humanize", but it is not "swing". "Swing" is still an exact rythmic value. "Humanize" works by simply randomizing all the notes by a few tics so that they aren't all exactly on the beat.
GQ is different. A programmer has put a real drummer on a real kit equipped w/ MIDI triggers and let him play a real beat. The result is a MIDI file played by an actual drummer. When you quantize normally, the notes are mapped to the exact beats. When you GQ, the notes are mapped to the timing of the file the programmer created with the real drummer.

Get it?

Furthermore, a "Groove File" has more than just time data, it also has velocity data. What this means is that because the drummer played , say, louder on the downbeats and softer on the upbeats, GQ'ing will not only adjust your timing to match the drummers, but also the velocity of the hits.

In theory this will make your MIDI drum tracks sound mor human. However.... the difference between theory and practice is: in theory there is no difference......

Aaron
http://www.voodoovibe.com

[BluesMeister]

Hey thanks guys for taking the time to explain GQ to me.

I could probably get a similar feel in HS by not snapping to grid when piano-rolling my percussion tracks. I have used this in the past with PA7 to get a less-metronomic feel to the drums.

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BluesMeister