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Question I got this E-Drum thinggie

i borrowed a Yamaha DD5, an old school drum pad, and I find it very interesting since I can use it to trigger programs like FL via midi.

I have 2 questions:

1) Since it doesn't have any input for pedals, I was thinking if I can use the sustain pedal on my XP30 as kick drum pedal. If possible, how do I assign the sustain pedal(which is connected to XP30) to FL as a seperate midi channel.

2) Does anyone know how to assign midi channels on this Yamaha DD5? and How to setup FL to accept each kit as a seperate midi ch?

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AI my friend..

Lets see...

1. If I'm not mistaken, you wanna take this route :

Sust Pedal --> XP30
XP30 MIDI OUT ---> DD5 MIDI IN
DD5 MIDI OUT --> PC, and record to FL...

I'm not sure if you can do it Message sent by Sustain Pedal commonly known as CC 64, not Note On / Off message, thus cannot be used to trigger notes of DD5.

2. I don't have DD5. It's been long time since I had Alessis D4 (sold in 1999 with the manual), but if I remember it clear, you must "chase" the note to it's own channel. Do you see "chase" function somewhere in the edit mode of DD5 ? And sorry, I don't use FL


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hi, there, james

The DD5 doesn't have midi in or any ins for pedals of any kind. I was actually thinking of trigger the kick via some kind of pedal thru XP30 because xp30 is the only midi instrument I have besides dd5.

Does that make any sense? using two independent midi instruments to trigger drum tracks. BTW I use Sonar as well, I am sure you have some kind of solution to that one, right

ps, I have a 8x8 midi interface if that helps my problem.

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Curiously, today I've tried "your setup" with SONAR. It's been interesting I record sustain pedal to MIDI track, and screwing around to find how to convert them to notes Guess No luck so far. I tried convert MIDI to shape ( ), CAL, etc... and still can't have note out of MIDI controller...

And it doesn't seem possible either to record one track using 2 independent controller simultaneously (even using dual separated MIDI port assigned). I'm not sure, I could be wrong but so far, I didn't get luck... sorry dude


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What you want to do may be possible but it's definately something normal. Part of the problem is that sustain pedals send two notes - one for on and one for off. Most drum triggers just expect a single note one. If you can get it work somehow it will probably involve a lot of filtering out of the note offs or a lot of weirdness with cutoff notes or double hits.

I would just sequence the kick drum and play over the top of that. Or get an Alesis DM5(?) drum trigger head. They are pretty cheap nowadays.
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Special thanks to James for trying to figure this out for me of course, Tex, too.

Ok, so the sustain pedal idea is got to go. But, how about other pedals avaliable out there for keyboards? Like expression pedal and what not.

All in all, I am just being a cheap bastard looking for my way out of buying a real E-Drum

Maybe I should just put a mic on the floor recording my foot tapping, and another mic on the table recording me drumming with pencials, then match them with samples

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