Home Recording

Go Back   Home Recording > User Forums by Brand > Fostex Forum


        

                                
                                10/30 - [video] Demo Roland TD-20SX
Reply    Audiofanzine Recorder-multitrack Recorder-multitrack News Recorder-multitrack Medias Recorder-multitrack Tests Recorder-multitrack Articles Recorder-multitrack User Reviews Recorder-multitrack Classifieds Ads
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-06-2003
billisa billisa is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Branford, CT
Posts: 1,343
Rep Power: 2088
billisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond repute
Guitar into VF80

I have been plugging my son's guitars (electric and acoustic/electric) directly into my VF80, without using a DI box. Is this not OK? I've read some things that assume the use of a DI box... Also, is there such a thing as a balanced guitar cord or are they all unbalanced -- or indeed can one get either? Assuming all of the above, and that it's OK to go directly into the VF80, what kind of guitar cord should I use?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-06-2003
Axe4Yahweh's Avatar
Axe4Yahweh Axe4Yahweh is offline
Force of Nature
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: VA
Age: 55
Posts: 791
Rep Power: 8
Axe4Yahweh is on a distinguished road
It won't hurt a thing if you go direct into the VF80 with an Axe. However, an Acoustic/Electric will sound much better through a Mic Pre or Mixer and an Electric much better through a Modeler, Guitar Processor, Guitar Preamp, etc. before the VF80.

A DI Box allows you to take a line level/low level unbalanced signal and make it balanced.

CR ><>
__________________
http://www.christianmusicianforum.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-06-2003
bdbdbuck's Avatar
bdbdbuck bdbdbuck is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: chasing moose and squirrel
Age: 55
Posts: 1,574
Rep Power: 33
bdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond repute
Unless I'm mistaken, I think an Adamas comes with an XLR balanced output. Much cheaper to go the route Axe mentioned though.

bd
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-06-2003
Garry Sharp's Avatar
Garry Sharp Garry Sharp is offline
Lost Cause
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: London, UK
Age: 10
Posts: 1,698
Rep Power: 21370
Garry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond reputeGarry Sharp has a reputation beyond repute
Hi Bill. The 1/4" input on the VF is unbalanced anyway. It's designed to take a guitar straight in as you are doing, and has amp modelling facilities within it which are supposed to do the same as an external box. They're probably crap though
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-06-2003
billisa billisa is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Branford, CT
Posts: 1,343
Rep Power: 2088
billisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks...

I feel better. Actually, modelling doesn't really appeal to me right now. We're going for as clean a sound as possible. Actually, in comparing the VF80 direct input against miking the 12-string, the direct line into the VF80 sounded excellent.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-06-2003
bdbdbuck's Avatar
bdbdbuck bdbdbuck is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: chasing moose and squirrel
Age: 55
Posts: 1,574
Rep Power: 33
bdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond repute
In any event, the V-Amp2 has wet and dry outputs so you can have either one or a mixture of both.


bd
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-06-2003
Axe4Yahweh's Avatar
Axe4Yahweh Axe4Yahweh is offline
Force of Nature
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: VA
Age: 55
Posts: 791
Rep Power: 8
Axe4Yahweh is on a distinguished road
Someone besides me loves their V-AMP2...

CR ><>
__________________
http://www.christianmusicianforum.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-06-2003
bdbdbuck's Avatar
bdbdbuck bdbdbuck is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: chasing moose and squirrel
Age: 55
Posts: 1,574
Rep Power: 33
bdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond repute
Best thing since sliced bread man!!


bd
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-08-2003
a12stringer's Avatar
a12stringer a12stringer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Saint Joseph, MO
Posts: 211
Rep Power: 24
a12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant futurea12stringer has a brilliant future
At the risk of making a stupid sounding suggestion, why not mike the guitar and record direct at the same time? That way you can listen to and pick which sound you prefer, or, with some judicious editing, mix and switch parts throughout the song. This is one of the great things about digital recording. You can have your cake, eat it too, and even switch flavors between [if you'll pardon the atrocious pun] bytes.
__________________
"Tolerance is a virtue only to those who will believe anything." G.K. Chesterton
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-08-2003
bdbdbuck's Avatar
bdbdbuck bdbdbuck is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: chasing moose and squirrel
Age: 55
Posts: 1,574
Rep Power: 33
bdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond reputebdbdbuck has a reputation beyond repute
The nice thing about the V-Amp2 like I said before, is it has wet and dry outputs which gives me the option of how much fx I'm gonna record with. The other thing is purely personal preference, once I find a sound for the guitar that I like for the song I'm working on, I pretty much stick with it all the way through. If I feel I want something else to augment the sound, I'll track that seperately, so I can bring it up or down to taste. It's mostly just doing it the way I feel most comfortable doing it. It's kinda the same thing only different. I have used the mic in the past with the V-Amp, giving me a total of three inputs and got the fullest acoustic sound I've ever gotten, for the most part though I'm usually looking for something else.


bd
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-08-2003
billisa billisa is offline
1K Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Branford, CT
Posts: 1,343
Rep Power: 2088
billisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond reputebillisa has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by a12stringer
At the risk of making a stupid sounding suggestion, why not mike the guitar and record direct at the same time? That way you can listen to and pick which sound you prefer, or, with some judicious editing, mix and switch parts throughout the song. This is one of the great things about digital recording. You can have your cake, eat it too, and even switch flavors between [if you'll pardon the atrocious pun] bytes.
actually, I've done this, and it's kind of cool. very hard to pick which is "better"...
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Google
 


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 20:14.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995-2008 Audiofanzine except where noted. All Rights Reserved.