Hey, Jerks...I don't CARE!!

[chrisharris]

...what kind of music you're recording, or what your girl/boyfriend thinks about your recording hobby, or anything about you other than the answer to the next question:

How much harddrive space do you normally eat up to record a single song?

I try to be pretty smart about it...I "close non session waves" pretty often, I save over file names whenever I've made a minor change to a file that I've bounced, etc., but I'm still sweating it near the end of a project if I start out with less than 3GB left on my drive.

Yeah, this is a dumb thread, but I kinda' wanted to use that thread title.

c-ya
-Chris

[Badger]

I never check. When it craps out, I know I need more space.

[FattMusiek]

My smallest project folder is 100+ MB, my biggest is over a GIG!

[Track Rat]

Per song, on average they're about a gig and a half.

[joro]

I never checked.....

I have eaten up about 20 gigs of space.....lot's of garbage....

I should take out the trash......

I'll get back at least 19.99 gigs

[dobro]

Between 200 and 500 MB for stuff with all the layers - beats, bass, guitars, vocals. But I've got a tune on the album I'm working on that's 23 MB - just a single mono vocal track.

This is getting to be a real issue. When I got this 60 GB hard drive, I thought I had all the real estate I'd ever want. Now I have to keep my eye on it and continually shift stuff onto disks.

What I want is *affordable* hotswap hard drives. Just pull one out and bung another one in. Windows recognizes it right away and you're good to go.

[scottboyher]

I usually hover around 250-300 meg.

[James Argo]

Lowering your bit rate = smaller file size.

Higher bitrate = eat much space !!!

If you often record 24 bit, try use 16 bit instead. Otherwise... GET NEW HDD


jaymz

...please consider Pre-ordering Homerecording.Comp CD's Vol 2

[Change of POETS]

I generally eat up about 70 mb or so per track.

But I don't save to my Hard drive, I use CD-RW Media. One disc per song... at the price of $0.33 per disc, I can't see why I anyone wouldn't take advantage of it.

[rustyfingers]

I usually use about 1 - 1.5 GB. Of that about 25kB is actually worth a shit.

Dennis

[Chrisjob]

Originally posted by James Argo
Lowering your bit rate = smaller file size.

Higher bitrate = eat much space !!!

If you often record 24 bit, try use 16 bit instead. Otherwise... GET NEW HDD


jaymz

...please consider Pre-ordering Homerecording.Comp CD's Vol 2

Too bad you can't record 24-bit into CEP !!!

James, you only use CEPs editor, and Sonar for tracking and mixing, yes?

[chrisharris]

Originally posted by Change of POETS
I generally eat up about 70 mb or so per track.

But I don't save to my Hard drive, I use CD-RW Media. One disc per song... at the price of $0.33 per disc, I can't see why I anyone wouldn't take advantage of it.

Interesting. Do you work totally from the CD-RW, saving nothing on your hard drive?

[dobro]

Yeah, good question. I save to my hard drive, backup to my second hard drive (fast) and backup yet another time to CDRW (slow) in case the entire computer falls over, explodes or gets stolen. Isn't it awfully slow using nothing but CDRWs?

[TexRoadkill]

44.1 kHz @ 16 bits = 5.046 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 121.124 MB.

44.1 kHz @ 24 bits = approx. 7.57 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 181.686 MB.

48kHz @ 16 bits = 5.49 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 131.84MB

48kHz @ 24 bits = 8.24 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 197.75MB

[chrisharris]

Originally posted by TexRoadkill
44.1 kHz @ 16 bits = 5.046 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 121.124 MB.

44.1 kHz @ 24 bits = approx. 7.57 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 181.686 MB.

48kHz @ 16 bits = 5.49 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 131.84MB

48kHz @ 24 bits = 8.24 MB/minute/track
At 24 tracks, 1 minute = 197.75MB

wow...mine eyes have seen the truth, lmao.

I was more interested in how sloppy everybody else is. If I have drums, bass, 3 or 4 guitars, and 50 vocals (), I usually save all the tracks as dry tracks once I get a take that doesn't make me vomit, then I screw around with them a lot before I clean up the session. Yup, about 3.5 GB per tune. I'm sloppy.

[scottboyher]

Sloppy? Sloppy? You don't know sloppy! I don't even name anything. If I had to go back and pick out the backup vocal on that one song one that one session. I would have to look through all the tracks.

Drums = Track1.wav
Bass = Track2.wav
etc.

I don't even name the folder.

[Change of POETS]

Originally posted by chrisharris
Interesting. Do you work totally from the CD-RW, saving nothing on your hard drive?

Well, I generally only keep final mixes on my HD.

If I finish a song, and get a final mix off the beat, and the vocals, I'll save them both to my HD. This allows me to keep my CPU running fast and efficient. This way I'm only saving two .wav files per song on my HD.

I need to do this because I have a piece of crap PC

I'm running on Windows ME, in a 766 mghz Intel Celeron with a 30 gig HD On 384 mb of SDRAM. With the method I use, my PC runs pretty quick, and I never get any lag when recording or editing the waveforms...

I guess it just makes sense to me

[scottboyher]

I don't have to do that and I am running a 433 Celeron with 256 RAM and 10gig HD.

[Change of POETS]

Originally posted by scottboyher
I don't have to do that and I am running a 433 Celeron with 256 RAM and 10gig HD.

I don't "have" to do it either... I just recently started doing it this way because I noticed I used 8 gigs of HD space in 3 months time.

I do graphic design as well, so i have programs like Photoshop and other things which take up a lot of space too.

I just think this is more efficient, plus my PC runs faster.

[scottboyher]

Hmm. Well I back up my sessions on CDR after I am done with the mix and everything else. I delete the session from my HD and only work with the one mixed .wav. You are correct I can speed up the PC.

[Change of POETS]

Originally posted by scottboyher
Hmm. Well I back up my sessions on CDR after I am done with the mix and everything else. I delete the session from my HD and only work with the one mixed .wav. You are correct I can speed up the PC.

The speed was the biggest issue for me. The difference is waiting 2 minutes to add an effect to a vocal, or waiting 10 seconds to add an effect...

I know a lot of people don't care but, I'm trying to get work done in a timely manner

[cool#9]

I use about 100 MB per session and usually end up with roughly 1.2 GB (2 CDs) for a whole song.

note: I use 2 x 80GB HDDs and regurlarly "close non-session waves" to tidy up workspace.

[TexRoadkill]

Originally posted by chrisharris
wow...mine eyes have seen the truth, lmao.

I was more interested in how sloppy everybody else is. If I have drums, bass, 3 or 4 guitars, and 50 vocals (), I usually save all the tracks as dry tracks once I get a take that doesn't make me vomit, then I screw around with them a lot before I clean up the session. Yup, about 3.5 GB per tune. I'm sloppy.

That's why I stopped comping everything. It becomes a real pain trying to manage all the files and then you have to go back and find all the good parts. Now I just do straight punch ins most of the time to keep it simple. Then I can spend more time mixing and less time editing.

[Herm]

Hey Texroadkill, Where did you come up with those numbers for
drive use in 24 bit?

I dont think it is anywhere near that high.

Maybe double for 24 bit from 16 bit