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Old 05-23-2003
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recording midi sequences

I do all of my work on PC, however unsatisfied with PC drums i decided to buy a sampler and use it for my drums. My sampler does not have a sequencer, therefore I must sequence it from cubase. Here is my problem, how do I go about recording my midi sequences with the rest of my song on PC. Do I need another recording device?

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o.k. i found the answer....

"When you want to record MIDI to audio you simply mute all the midi tracks except the ones you want to record (or use solo in the software mixer). Once you record to audio you can delete or permanently mute the MIDI data. (I put it in a muted folder in logic)."-some midi site.

here's the thing.....

the purpose of me buying the sampler was to avoid recording drum hits to my computer because i have found that recording kicks and snares(from vinyl) to PC sound weak. Using the method above seems like it would defeat the purpose of purchasing the sampler. If I must record to something else how could I get it back on to my PC's hard drive for burning without comprimising the sound quality?

If these posts are rediculous, I apologize.......I just want better sounding drums that's all....and I am prepared to do whatever it takes.
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You can also route the MIDI messages for the drum tracks out the computer's MIDI interface to the sampler.

Rendering your parts to audio has nothing to do with your problem as described. It's only for mixing down to a stereo WAV file at the end, or to get around polyphony issues if you only have 16 tracks of MIDI to deal with.
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the purpose of me buying the sampler was to avoid recording drum hits to my computer because i have found that recording kicks and snares(from vinyl) to PC sound weak. Using the method above seems like it would defeat the purpose of purchasing the sampler. If I must record to something else how could I get it back on to my PC's hard drive for burning without comprimising the sound quality?
Buy a better sound card or record to an analog deck. There is no reason that the sampler should sound better than your computer unless you have a really crappy sound card. Does your sampler offer any way to transfer the sounds digitally? At least that way you wont have to do an extra conversion.
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OK,

Here's a solution that I do to make the drums and other instruments sound more to live instruments and drums for when I go out playing on gigs and it works great.

If you have the software (eg: Digital Orchestrator Plus) here's what you do:

WHAT I DO IN DIGITAL ORCHESTRATOR PLUS:

1. Copy each Seperate (eg: Cymbals, HiHat, Snare, Kick, Tom1, Tom2, Tom3) and paste them into individual tracks.

2. Highlight all the tracks in Track View and set velocity(volume) to 127 and all tracks will be loud.

3. In Track View, select the snare track and [Ctrl+C]copy

4. Find the next available track and [Ctrl+V]paste the snare track in there. You should now have 2 copies of the snare.

5. Do Step 3 and 4 until you get the desired meaty live sound for the drums.

6. You will now find that you'd need to also update your bass guitar to match. I use two types the Picking bass X2 and the Slap bass X2 X2=how many tracks for each.

7. Adjust the volume slider controls for slap to suite, it's for clarity purposes only and if you want, you can use Acoustic Bass. But be careful that you don't get the destorted sound with too much Acoustic Bass.

You can do all the above if you have a good sound card and the appropiate midi software.

I use a SBLive card. Digital Orchestrator Plus and a Mini-Disk Recorder/Player for finished results.

I hope this helps.
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thanks for the replies. Tex had it right , I just wanted to avoid the double conversion and unfortunately, i am working with a older sampler so sending the audio data digitally would not work. My sound card for the record is a Mia Echo. Once again thanks for the replies.
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