dachay2tnr

[entangle]

Hi dachay2tnr, I have a proposition for you. If this is at all untoward, you may of course feel free to say so. And if this is in any way not cool with this forum, I'll take my chances that the omnipotent moderators will censure and/or censor me.

I have my SONAR 2.2XL successfully installed. I've been working with it for hours, and can't get it to do most of the simple things I need it to do. I spent 12 years learning my last rig, the Hybrid Arts/Atari stuff, plus I'd started out with two week-long intensitve training courses. I can't find any training courses for Cakewalk, as there are with Pro-Tools, for instance. This stuff is hard, I know.
I know it's all working right, since I do get sound, and can record and playback a little bit. But that's about it.

I need some hands on help. You're not far from me. Help me!, and I'll pay handsomely! $75 an hour for a few evening sessions over the course of a month or so? Cash! I'll gladly spend something like $500 to get going. I'm 42 now, I often work 7 days a week. I'm running out of time!!

I single you out cause, well, you the man! I've seen more detailed answers on this forum in your replies than I've seen anywhere. And you're somewhere nearby with all of this knowledge! Use the force!!

I know this is probably a little creepy, the internet can certainly freak people out when it comes to going beyond random communication. I assure you though, I am just a construction engineer with a wife and three kids and an ability to write endless music. And I would of course never give out any personal information about you on line, or anywhere else. If you email, I'll tell you my name, where I work, give you personal references. My father's a retired attorney. I'm cool.

I'll give you my firstborn male child, he can do yardwork.

Seriously though, I just need my new pc based powerhouse to be my canvas, and the water's too deep for me! Another 12 years, I'll be 54 by the time I can operate the damn thing.

If you're interested: c_journal@hotmail.com

If not, I totally understand. Just tell me to buck up and keep
ploughing through it.

Thanks, Chris

[moskus]

Just a little suggestion... You might want to check out Sonar Power! by Scott R. Garrigus.

[dachay2tnr]

Chris - I'm flattered. However, this stuff is a hobby for me, and I really don't want to turn it into a job. Hope you understand.

In the meantime, try the book moskus suggested. Also, I highly recommend the tutorials that are supplied with Sonar. Go through all of them and they should get you started quite well.

And, of course, we're all still here to help when you hit roadblocks.

If you can record and playback, you're 3/4 of the way there already. Let us know where you're having specific problems at the current time, and we'll see if we can work you through them.

Also, if you want to e-mail me, send me a PM and I'll send you my e-mail address.

Mike

[entangle]

Well thank you, Mike. You are a gem. Send a PM, hmmm, how do I do that? I am really gratefull that you'd work with me in email though, so I'll figure out how to send the PM. Yes, I've been on the thing half the morning, and I can't get my metronome on! Can you believe that? And half the weekend too. I have my soft synths inserting, and drum kits, I can play them, I can record them. Next thing I want to do is set up loops, and start looping little riffs on drums and synths. That's what I've done for years. Then start pasting them and dropping things out sometimes, breaking it down. But I gotta have a metronome to start! I've always worked with a metronome. I've done the tutorial on it, I've read the manual on it. I've clicked and clicked. I can get it on with the pc speaker, but I want to keep my windows sounds off. I've always just picked a midi-note with my old rig, like a cowbell or a synth sound. It says I can do this with SONAR, and I try, and it doesn't work. Sigh. Thanks so much, Mike. It certainly was a little forward of me to try and buy ya, but I figured you'd take it in good stride, and yeah, find it flattering at least. I'm very forward on the net, I've met people from the net, I've seen plays by people on the net. I met one guy from Colorado, a playwright, on a playwrights forum, who ended up coming to town to see some of his plays, so I let him bunk with me for a week. It's cool stuff, the net, but I know it shakes a lot of people up to get too personal. So thanks so much again for being willing to help me via email. These forums are great, but an email buddy who's willing to help would be a bit more efficient I imagine. I'll try and send the PM. And I'll probably buy that book too. I mean, the manual is very big, it all should be there. But ya try things that sound so well described, and they don't work. Sigh. I know how it is though, each time you turn the thing on, you make something new work that you didn't the last. It's a process.
Take care. Chris

[moskus]

Originally posted by entangle
Send a PM, hmmm, how do I do that?

You press the "PM" button at the bottom of Dachays post...

[James Argo]

In summer holiday, moskus will take it for even $50 per hour...



in addition to $2000 airway tickets

[moskus]

Originally posted by James Argo
In summer holiday, moskus will take it for even $50 per hour...



in addition to $2000 airway tickets

I will go for that deal!

[entangle]

Wow, you're a 'wedgie'. This guy when I grew up (named Sven, of course) he was one of the middle children in this family of Norwegians around here in upstate New York. He always referred to him and his family as 'wedgies'. Holy shit he was a funny guy, man he was like the stand-up comedian of our gang when we were little kids. We'd run around here in the meadows and the mountains fishing and having all kinds of fun. Till we all got into drugs and beer. It went rapidly downhill from then on. Still fun though. Anyway, you're on for the 50 bucks an hour - however you get here is YOUR baby though. :-P
Man this stuff is everything I imagined, for once in my life I took my time and bought something that is what I wanted, what I needed, and real modern power. I was just messing around. I still can't get my goddamn metronome on, but I made a few midi tracks with my soft synths, the Roland VSC that came with the thing and a Cakewalk Pentagon that I downloaded for 100 bucks. WOW. You mess with the parameters, set up a few instruments, change the sounds, use the effects in the synth itself (not having to apply other DXi effects) play a few tracks, then when you save the thing as a new project, ALL that crap saves with it, the sounds, the effects, the tracks you used them on. I was looking for a way to save the settings on the synths (I think the dreamstation has it's own saving file, but the other two I've tried so far, the Roland - VIDEROL, is it? - and the Pentagon, don't.) I was like where's the saving for settings? Well, I just went ahead and saved the project file, and when you open it back up, it ALL comes with it. I mean wow. This is all just testing, I still have to figure out how to record and edit extensively. I can loop, but I can't lay down a good foundation for loops and quantizing until I get my damn metronome on. Sigh. C
PS I know I know, I'm long winded.
PPS Thing that is alarming me though is that my CPU hangs between like 30% and 50% sometimes, and I'm only just playing around. Hmmm.... I mean I'm going to do ALOT of midi tracks before I even start laying down guitar and vocals and bass tracks, and I want to do ALOT of overdubs with guitar and vocals. Is this thing going to peek out way before I'm done? I did also convert a midi track to an audio track, and it brought down the usage a lot. But still, it was around 10% to 15% for only one audio track. I'm a little worried that I won't be able to do extravagant stuff. Talkin' 4 part vocals with Brian May like 4 part harmonized guitar riffs?
Is that all gonna happen? Or is 100% going to happen way before that, and then what? It all just lays there and wallows? No more, no more!!

[James Argo]

, the Roland - VIDEROL, is it?

It's EDIROL

I believe you can save those individual effect setting into files using Plugins Manager. Free download from Cakewalk site.


Jaymz

[moskus]

Originally posted by entangle
Wow, you're a 'wedgie'.

I'll take this as a compliment...


Should I?




And James, how do you save presets with the Plugin Manager?

[BluesMeister]

Originally posted by entangle
Wow, you're a 'wedgie'

Mate, where I come from a wedgie is when your underdaks get caught in your bumcrack.

Trust me Moskus - it's not that complimentary DownUnder

Entangle, go through the SONAR manual, it has several tutorials that will explain what you want to know. If you can't get it together, or it's just not clear enough, just post your questions here in the Cakey BB.

Don't worry about posting seemingly foolish questions. We'll give you the appropriately foolish answers...

You might want to let us know your PC specs & OS.

--
BluesMeister

[entangle]

I didn't mean it as a compliment or an insult. Just sociology. It's probably a bigoted remark, but I tend to use bigoted remarks on all races including my own; kind of feel I have a right to, since I don't have a bigoted bone in my body. I mean, I got the remark from a Norwegian, you know? I used to play a lot of Backgammon on line with Norwegian chicks too. Hey guys, thanks for the info. I'll certainly post questions whenever they arise. Stay cool, C
PS Oh yes, a wedgie is a pulling up of the shorts here in the US too. So you live near Perth, I see. I have some baggage in my emotional psyche there in the form of a beautiful girl from Sydney whom I met on line, and it turned into 3 hour phone calls. She's on the coast west now in college. It's like that song, 'She Hates Me.'

[Teacher]

entangle:

if you live near Rockland County(where i live in NY) i can try to help you. I'm not as well versed as dachay(i don't think many of us are) but i'm able to work my Sonar w/o having to say 'damn wish i could do this or that'

[moskus]

Originally posted by entangle
I mean, I got the remark from a Norwegian, you know?

Yeah, I got that... I was just playing around... didn't you?

[entangle]

Okay. One never knows if one is offending. Especially with Norwegians. Now I'm playing. Hey, you're all too cool.

Teacher!: I live both North and South of you. Orange County, and Jersey City. My computer and SONAR are in Orange. Most of my other gear is in Jersey City. Soon they shall come together, but I'm not sure where yet. But I have enough gear with the SONAR to do what I want, record midi and audio. So yes I'd love to meet up with you and get some tips. I can come to you, if you wish, which would make it easier for you. I can just ask questions, and watch you click stuff, and take notes on paper. So, anytime you're willing. Email me if ya want, and we'll talk. Thanks!

c_journal@hotmail.com

[dachay2tnr]

Originally posted by Teacher
I'm not as well versed as dachay(i don't think many of us are) < snip >

I often wish I was half as smart as you guys give me credit for.