Bleeding tracks on Multitrack session

[mrniel]

What is the setting I need to change to get my tracks to stop "bleeding" into each other when I record on the multitrack session screen?

(By bleeding, I mean when I try to record a new separate track, the other recorded tracks will be heard in the new track. What the fuck?)

I can't for the life of me remember...I figured it was a soundcard setting but I can't figure it out.

What's even stranger is that up until today, I never had this problem and I certainly don't remember changing whatever setting that is that's making it "bleed."

[F_cksia]

what's your soundcard?

[mrniel]

Game Theatre XP 7.1

[Necromaniac]

Double click the speaker icon on the bottom left of your monitor. Than when the panal opens click options than properties. Than under the ADJUST VOLUME FOR make sure recording is selected. Than under that in the SHOW THE FOLLOWING VOLUME CONTROLS make sure everything has a check mark next to it. after you do that click ok. The volume controls will than appear and one of the controls will be a WHAT YOU HEAR. That is most likely selected. unselect it by clicking on something else like your mic in. there might also be a mp3 wav control make sure that is also unselected. PROBLEM SOLVED!

[mrniel]

I'm pretty sure this is a soundcard problem now...I've tried contacting Hercules though and the first response I get is:

"Just as a test, try muting the speakers."


Jeez, recording 101. I suppose the next thing he'll tell me is "make sure the computer is turned on."

[Change of POETS]

I've experienced in the past as well. 9 times out of 10, it's user error.

What are you tryin to record? And how are you set up?

Example... If you're trying to record vocals over an audio track, you're also getting the audio track on your vocal recording. Right?

A few things can cause this... the obvious is, your speakers are on, and the mic is picking up the sound

Another option, if you're using a mixer board to run through... Make sure you're not trying to record with your "Control room To Speakers" button pressed. That must be turned off, to allow the audio to play through the mixer to the headphones, but not out of the main audio output, which I would assume is in the "Mic/Line in" slot on your soundcard. Double check that.

If you're not using a mixer board, I'm not sure what else would cause this. One thing you may be doing is, recording on "Line in" and the "mic in" simultaneously. If one is set to record when it shouldn't be, you'll get unwanted sounds in your recordings.

Overall, I guess I need a better assesment of your setup before I can truly diagnose the problem.

-Brian

[Clockwork]

I have the same problem, but i have an Audiophile 2496. My Behringer Ub1202 is connected to the soundcard through the tape ins and outs. I cant figure out how to get the setup where i can hear the vocals and the instrumental in my headphones, but only record the vocals into CEP. Ive been recording by only using one earphone to listen to the beat and the other earphone off my ear so i can hear myself. theres gotta be a better way.

[Change of POETS]

Originally posted by Clockwork
I have the same problem, but i have an Audiophile 2496. My Behringer Ub1202 is connected to the soundcard through the tape ins and outs. I cant figure out how to get the setup where i can hear the vocals and the instrumental in my headphones, but only record the vocals into CEP. Ive been recording by only using one earphone to listen to the beat and the other earphone off my ear so i can hear myself. theres gotta be a better way.

I have the same mixer and set up the same way. I'm using the tape in from my soundcard.

The black buttons below the in/out of the Tape Deck RCA's read "From Control Room" & "Control Room Out" or something like that (I'm at work, not in my studio). Make sure the top button is pressed in, and the bottom button is not. This will send your audio to your headphones, but not to the master output.

[mrniel]

Originally posted by Change of POETS
I've experienced in the past as well. 9 times out of 10, it's user error.

What are you tryin to record? And how are you set up?

Example... If you're trying to record vocals over an audio track, you're also getting the audio track on your vocal recording. Right?

A few things can cause this... the obvious is, your speakers are on, and the mic is picking up the sound

Another option, if you're using a mixer board to run through... Make sure you're not trying to record with your "Control room To Speakers" button pressed. That must be turned off, to allow the audio to play through the mixer to the headphones, but not out of the main audio output, which I would assume is in the "Mic/Line in" slot on your soundcard. Double check that.

If you're not using a mixer board, I'm not sure what else would cause this. One thing you may be doing is, recording on "Line in" and the "mic in" simultaneously. If one is set to record when it shouldn't be, you'll get unwanted sounds in your recordings.

Overall, I guess I need a better assesment of your setup before I can truly diagnose the problem.

-Brian

I'm goin' barebones here...no mixer, just direct into the rack that came with the soundcard. I plug my shitty mic in there as well as my guitars and/or amp.

The speakers are muted when I try to record. For example, I'll have the drum track playing in the head phones and the speakers turned off, yet I'm still getting bleeding. Record source is set to microphone, all that... this is the same setup that I was using to make recordings since I bought all this stuff and now all of the sudden I've got tracks bleeding into others. I didn't change any settings or anything.

I also made sure that the original soundcard that's on the computer's motherboard or whatever it's called was also disabled. I've uninstalled and reinstalled everything, updated the drivers to my soundcard...I'm running out of ideas here.

[Change of POETS]

Originally posted by mrniel
I'm goin' barebones here...no mixer, just direct into the rack that came with the soundcard. I plug my shitty mic in there as well as my guitars and/or amp.

The speakers are muted when I try to record. For example, I'll have the drum track playing in the head phones and the speakers turned off, yet I'm still getting bleeding. Record source is set to microphone, all that... this is the same setup that I was using to make recordings since I bought all this stuff and now all of the sudden I've got tracks bleeding into others. I didn't change any settings or anything.

I also made sure that the original soundcard that's on the computer's motherboard or whatever it's called was also disabled. I've uninstalled and reinstalled everything, updated the drivers to my soundcard...I'm running out of ideas here.

What soundcard are you using?

I have a very cheap soundcard, and I get no problems with this anymore. My problem I described in my last post.

It may be in your best interest, to reinstall CEP and see what happens. This is truly a problem I haven't encountered before.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

[mrniel]

Game Theatre XP 7.1

[chrisharris]

I can't find it right now, but it IS a soundcard issue, and it's a really common one. When it happened to me (and I can't remember what started it), I went to Syntrillium's website, and it was like, question #1 on the Frequently Asked Questions section.

The fix was super simple, but I remember it was NOT something that I would have figured out...thus, the reason that I can't remember it now.

www.syntrillium.com

Good luck,
Chris

[mrniel]

Turned out that the game theatre was BROKEN. Again.

Bought an Audigy soundcard instead.

[manning1]

niel. ive covered this before many times.
1. try not to buy audigy. get a proper pro sound card.
gamers sound cards dont have good audio convertors.
2. with some gamers cards, in the card control panel make sure the what you hear is off and use line in. its user error not setting the card up right.
NEVER use mic in. on consumer sound cards these are awful in
audio specification terms. if you only have a consumer game card at least get a mic preamp or small mixer to send the mic signals to the sound card line in.
3. with some small mixers a lot of folks bring the sound card out stereo
back into the small mixer. this can lead to problems as often people dont set it up right. heres a solution that works. try it miel.
take the sound card stereo output into a used cheap home hi fi stereo receiver (which can be used to drive your main monitors), THEN plug headphones into it while recording (into the phone jack).
in a number of big studios , and i want you to grasp this concept.
because its important. they have essentially two mixers.
one feeds the mic signals to the multitracks. the second monitors from the multitracks outputs for headphone mixes, monitoring etc.
ie;;;a similar concept.
search under my name for lots of tips ive posted of this nature in the last year and many others. youll save a lot of money over going to a recording school with respect.

[lpdeluxe]

You are routing your playback into the new track. It's not "bleed:" it's misrouting. You must set things up so that the playback goes only to your monitors and not to the track being recorded. On my setup I set the recording channel to route to a recording bus and also to "L-R" so I can hear it through the headphones; meanwhile the playback is set ONLY to "L-R" so, while I hear it through the hps, it's not going back into the recording. A little research will show you how to do this. It's a soundcard problem only if the soundcard doesn't allow this flexibility.