Pic #5 Last One

[DigitalDon]

Ok last one

[sae]

what are those wires coming out of the wall?

[DigitalDon]

Coming out of the Control Room wall are 2 digital audio snake cables (12 pair each) connecting the Control Room with the Live Room and one digital audio snake cable (8 pair) connecting Control Room to Vocal Booth. I would rather have had a trough in the concrete to feed these cables between the rooms but didn't think about that before the slab was poured. All cables will terminate in custom XLR panels made into a wood box attached to the wall.

DD

[sae]

nice...

Are they coming out of the wall in the control room? Is that the picture I see?

[c9-2001]

so where in south Ga is this new studio?

[Jeff_D]

looks nice- like the colors- bold! (from a man who has a bright orange wall in his dining room)

-jeff

[DigitalDon]

SAE - Yeah the blue walls are in the control room. I have flourescent electronic ballast lights in both rooms for practice, goofing around, etc. Much cheaper to run than the incandescent track lights. The live room (red room) will have track lights all around for use during recording. The control room will also have track lights (and the required lava lamp of course).

C9 - I'm near Albany, Ga south of you out in the country.

In case anyone is wondering the blue color is Glidden Rich Navy. The live room is Glidden Deep Garnet. The control room took a single coat while the live room required 2 coats.

DD

[sae]

Originally posted by DigitalDon
(and the required lava lamp of course).

C9 - I'm near Albany, Ga south of you out in the country.

In case anyone is wondering the blue color is Glidden Rich Navy. The live room is Glidden Deep Garnet. The control room took a single coat while the live room required 2 coats.

DD

Lava lamp? I have one of those....my first step towards a "studio" is done I'm glad you told the color because I really liked it!

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hi DD! Man, you picked my two favorite colors! The ceiling in my little ole home studio is painted the same as your tracking room. Love it. Looks great DD. Can't wait to be that far along myself. In a few months I'll be starting mine. What goes in the ceiling DD?
fitz

[DigitalDon]

Hey Rick. Right now I'm considering (Ok - my wife is saying) that we'll paint the suspended ceiling frame and ceiling tiles a dark (almost black) navy blue. Also considering painting the ceiling frame dark navy blue and the ceiling tiles black for a "slight" contrast. Of course when I have the track lights only on (vs the flourescents) it'll all look black up there

Right now I'm waiting on the HVAC duct work guy to give me an estimate. Damn contractors !!!!!

DD

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey Rick. Right now I'm considering (Ok - my wife is saying) that we'll paint the suspended ceiling frame and ceiling tiles

Heheheheh!! Hellow DD, say, I made a deal with my wife. She gets the whole house to decorate anyway she wants, which she likes a real femine motif called "shabby chic" which I can't stand.
In return, she stays outa my studio, and I build and paint anyway I want. Which she can't stand. I like ultra contemporary. And NIBNOBS! Ha! Chrome and black, stainless steel and plex. I end up spending all my free time in here(I'm in the studio cause one of my computers is my net connection, and one is my cad workstation, and one is my DAW. But my new studio will be in a seperate building like yours. I'll never come out!!!
fitz

[DigitalDon]

Keeping the wife out of the studio. A couple of months ago I got (OK, OK she got!!) a great deal on a new overstuffed sofa for the studio. A local furniture store had most of their warehouse racks (about 6 levels high) collapse. All the pieces to this set were destroyed except the couch. It was $700 sofa and we got it for $300. Anyhow, it's been sitting in our now crowded living room since we got it. It's turned into her favorite sofa to nap on. As a matter of fact she's napping on it now. I know once the studio is finished I'll go looking for her and find her out in the studio taking a nap

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey DD, Ok, I see your jambs with no trim yet. Is there a gap behind the sheetrock at the edge of the jambs? You used RC didn't you? If so, do you fill or caulk that gap? Maybe use a foam rod backer, or am I seeing something else. I guess what I'm trying to ask, is what I've asked at least 20 times here, is IF the sheetrock is floated on RC, since there is NO RC around the perimeter of the jambs, the sheetrock is basically hanging in space up to the jamb. Is that correct? IF so, can you post some closeup pics at the jambs. Oh, by the way, I found that detail for seperating the window Jamb, but you had it finished already. So I didn't post the section.
Your studio is looking great DD. Say, what kind of setup. DAW, or Dedicated type HD
recorder? Are you soffit mounting or nearfields? How about the back wall of the control room DD? And your floors?? How bout the glass? And where were you on Oct 3 200............ Questions questions questions. Ha!! Damn I'm nosy
fitz

[DigitalDon]

Ok Rick here goes - Yes I used RC1 on everything. Even the exterior walls. And yes, you are 100% correct. The sheetrock is hanging in space there at the jambs. As far as mounting trim around the jambs I'll probably use Liquid Nails to attach the trim to the sheetrock. Of course the trim will be odd since the sheetrock stands our more than a standard non-RC wall. I'll post some pics but it'll be tomorrow. I'm working today for Uncle Sam and my son has a gig tonight.

My humble setup (at this point) is a DAW. P III 750MHz, 256 meg, removeable Maxtor (love them) hard drives, Cakewalk PA 9.0, Win 98SE (have XP but haven't installed yet), Waves bundle and lots of other plug ins, Aardvark Q10 (love it). I'll add a Matrox dual monitor video card when the studio is done - got to have more screen real estate!! Some outboard stuff like compressors, fx, headphone amp, patchbay, etc. Mics - SM58, SM57, Superlux drum mic kit, CAD E100 condensor, Marshall MXL V67G (just got it this week) with shock mount, misc Peavey and RS (Harvey Gerst recommended) tom mics. Monitors - M-Audio SP-8B nearfields and JBL 4311 Control Monitors (to be reconed after studio completed).

All the walls will have some type of treatment. I just won't know how much until it's completed and all the equipment/furnishings are in. The rooms won't be dead but as "balanced" as I can get it/afford. Except the vocal booth will be dead. All FX added in the DAW.

Floors will be painted concrete except vocal booth which will be carpet. Don't need to record the vocalist tapping his foot on concrete . I hop to one day install a hardwood floor in the control room.

Glass will be 1/2" facing live room and 3/8" facing control room and vocal booth. That's 4 pieces. Cost is $409. It will be plate flass as I just can't afford laminated. Two pieces of 1/2" laminated cost more than the 4 pieces above. Sice is 3' x 3' @ vocal booth and 3' x 4' @ control room windows.

Hey, on a side note. I met Dennis Edwards (Temptations) at my sons gig last night. The club my son played at was in the same hotel they were staying in. Got a picture to put in the studio. I would have like to have seen their (Temptations Revue) show. Heard it was great.

Damn this got long!!!

DD

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey DD, thanks alot.

I also saw the Temps show here in Roseville CA about a year ago. They had a 4 pc rock band backing them and man were they hot. But the Temps were fantastic. Sure is nice to see "pro" entertainers. Most bands don't know the meaning of the word entertain. Music isn't all there is to it in the Music biz. Anyway, sounds great what your planning, except you might consider some throw rugs in the tracking room to break up reflections, but I'm no expert. OK DD, keep us informed. Thanks for the info. And good luck. Tell your interior designer shes doing a great job!
fitz

[DigitalDon]

Throw rugs ... heh heh. Believe it or not my wife tried to get me to buy 2 "Persian" looking rugs on sale at Lowes last week. We plan on putting some in (kinda of a Dave Matthews thing) to tone reflections down and add some color. A little easier on the feet than concrete too. Actually she picked the colors for the walls from the Persian rugs. Damn she's good. Guess I'll keep her.

[sae]

Once I get my studio space done (...started...) I am getting my wife to interior design it.

They sure are good for that

[John Sayers]

Looks great DD. nice work mate.

May I make a suggestion ?? For that pine window framing have you considered Lime Wash??

It's clear varnish that has lime in it - it creates a whitish finish yet you can still see the grain. It also stops the pine from yellowing which I think looks like shit

Here's a pic of straight pine done with a lime wash.



cheers
john

[DigitalDon]

John - Yeah that finish looks great. Wish I had that wood on some of my walls! Any idea what they would call lime wash here in the states? Or do you mix it up yourself? That blue looks kinda familiar too .

Rick - Here's a picture of the door jamb where the RC1 mounted sheetrock ends. At the top you can barely make out the edge of the RC. Next pic will be with a tape measure so you can see the distance from the wall. Hope this helps.

DD

[DigitalDon]

Near door jamb with tape measure

[John Sayers]

Lime Wash - here in Aussieland you can buy it ready made up but I once asked a painter to use it and he made his own. It's basically a clear varnish with slaked lime added. As at your local paint store.

cheers
john

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Cool John, love lime finishes. It looks good on pine, great on clear fir, and oak too!
I've got a box of wood samples with lime finishes, that I collected at work over the years. We had to match a designers sample almost every macys job. Each one of them were different, with a touch of some other pigment. I love Lime finishes!!!
Most bizzar finish I've seen, was last year. The designers used a giant diagonal checker board design, on walls, fixtures etc. Some were dark mahogany and light anigre, some with the mahogany and a painted mdf, that was pewter colored. Some in Maple stained with Analine dyes. Wow!!! You can see them in Macys flagship stores. It was last years theme. But what a hassle machining all the parts. The squares were about 3' square.(meter?) Every square had to be perfect, and edge routed for splines to join the pcs. These were fastened from the back side to framing.
Gawd was it beautiful finishes. Some of the walls were 40' long, and took up about 200 pcs. The pattern had to return on the ends, which meant lock mitering each peice. Talk about a mind fuck listing all the parts and numbering them. Plus the grains had to match in flitch number and grain direction, as the veneers were custom sheared from flitches in New York, and each flitch had a little different color. Plus, the veneers had to be custom laid on MDF, at a DIAGONAL to save waste. Ha! Bet ya never seen diagonal grains on a panel! I made a bunch of little boxes from the cutoff and sold them in the park behind my house during craftshow days. I love to do that kind of stuff too!! Used to have a big shop in my city, that I would build everything for resturaunts and other types of business. But I really get off on crafts and custom fixturing.
I've done a lot of Audio/Video fixture work for a company in Texas called Sound Vision. They provide Audio/Visuall packages for studios, merchandising, and other types of business's. Even jails. Ha! Built a GIANT console for the Sacramento jail one time. Wow, talk about equipment. Sheeeeeze! Also built a instore DJ console for a big electronics store, that ran a six screen, surround sound, audio visuall extravaganza marketing tool. Man, talk about cables from hell!!! Six panasonic GIANT multiscreen vidio monitor arrays. And amplifier rooms. Crap. The cableing schematics were 23 "E" sheets big. Bla bla bla. Sorry.
fitz

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

OOPS, damn DD, started to thankyou for the pics, and saw Johns post, and naturally if you talk wood and stuff, I'm going to bla bla my .02

So what are you going to do? build out the framing to match the sheetrock? You say your going to use adhesive for the trim to sheetrock connection. That should seal it pretty good to. But are you going to fasten it to the jamb with nails or adhesive too.
Just tryin to find out how other people are doing these details. I'll be facing them myself by summer if I have it my way But crap, I haven't even found a house yet.
Ha! What ever I find, its going to have either a prebuilt seperate building or room for me to build one myself, which I would prefer. I'm going to be looking into that material knightfly was talking about for the exterior shell. Seems pretty interesting, but thats a while off. Well thanks again DD. That helps. BTW, how come your jambs are narrow?

fitz

[DigitalDon]

Rick - Not being a construction guy I figured I would use non-hardening silicone adhesive between the trim and door jamb. I figure the liquid nails sets up pretty hard so the silicone would help decouple the sheetrock - trim - door jamb connection. Every little bit helps I guess.

Not sure what you meant by the door jamb being so narrow. What you see is the 2"x4" framed opening then the 1"x4" jamb ready to install hinges and door. Are you talking about the distance from the sheetrock edge to the door jamb?

I'm sure the trim thickness will be a little wierd because of the RC holding the sheetrock out from the wall. Then again, I guess I could use a standard size trim butted up against the sheetrock then place half-round trim over the seam (sheetrock to trim seam). See, ya got me thinking. reaching for the Motrin

DD

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Then again,I guess I could use a standard size trim butted up against the sheetrock then place half-round trim over the seam (sheetrock to trim seam)

Yep, thats what I meant. Hindsight is usually 20/20 It SEEMS that the standard jamb would be 1/2" narrow with RC on one face. IF you had a table saw, you could cut custom jambs from wider stock, to match the sheetrock face to sheetrock face dimension. It would come out cleaner, but if your jambs are already in place, oh well. However, two layers of trim might look good. I personally hate 1/2 rounds like that. It always looks like a mistake cover to me. Actually, thats what its for. With 2 layers of trim, you can offset the second layer and will look like its machined that way once it has a finish.
Are you painting the jamb/trim or sealing it au natural? (lime?) I've got some of the details at doors and windows worked out for mine. I'm not using wood. I'm using special aluminum extrusions, that will be siliconed to the sheetrock, and exposed Stainless steel flat sockethead screws to hold it to the jambs, which actually will be laminated with chemetal(brushed peweter) Most of my studio will be detailed with metal type stuff. I have source books for products never seen in a studio. Thats why I want to use them.
Nobody else will have the same type detailing as mine. I'm a detail freak. Ha! Thats my job. I'm a detailer. I even have a couple of sheets of stainless tambour. Cool for curved stuff(polycylndrical diffusers). And I've collected tons of special store fixture hardware, that I've saved for 10 yrs for my studio project. Plus multi layer translucent colored plex diffuser/lighting/de'art objects(actully large custom lava lamps Goofy, but fun!!! And thats what this has to be for me, fun, fun, fun!! I even have a console frame that I welded up 2 yrs ago that looks like a floating gullwing. Only one leg In front of it. Its a 8" square steel I beam that will be bolted to a cable chase in the floor.
In turn bolted to the underside of the console. Well, enough of my bla bla bla!
Thanks again DD, and good luck with this. Its looking WAY TOO COOL!!!!
fitz