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Exclamation Few Misc Questions....

First of thanks to all who attemp to make me less dumb

My gear is
Korg D12 HD Recorder
Shure Mics
Korg Karma DAW
Emu Planet Phatt Module
BBE Sonic Maximizer 422
DigiTech Vocal Harmonizer
Cakewalk Sonar 2.2XL



1)Even after spending close to $8000 on gear. I have a noise problem with mics. Either I have to much noise or not enough signal... there doesnt seem to be a happy medium.

2)How can I learn compression/limiting techniques without 'expirementing'. I cant seem to find the 'right sound'

3)Anyone working on any projects (audio) in WesT TN?


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Re: Few Misc Questions....

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I have a noise problem with mics. Either I have to much noise or not enough signal... there doesnt seem to be a happy medium.
You need a micpreamp! The buildt in pre`s in your recorder isn`t up to the task.....
You now have a million choices, do a search.....

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[2)How can I learn compression/limiting techniques without 'expirementing'. I cant seem to find the 'right sound'
You will never learn it without experimenting, so go ahead!
If you are using the comp/limiters in your D12, there`s your problem , they suck(sorry, but they really do).... I recommend a RNC......

Best of luck, and welcome into the world of GAS!

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having to much gain can cause this. Sometimes to much gain ain't very good.
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Re: Re: Few Misc Questions....

Thanks. Very quick respones

Ya, I have noticed my $1000 worth of recorder is worth about $100. I am hoping to upgrade. Any suggestions on a good HD recorder or replacement media? I need *at least* 4 simueltaneous recording inputs and 12 tracks.

Also another problem I see with my Korg D12 is that (w/o CD) I have no way to export and edit tracks indivudally.
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....another comp/limiter ?

Sorry forgot to ask....

Should I indivudually compress/limit tracks or do the final mix only?
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Re: ....another comp/limiter ?

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Sorry forgot to ask....

Should I indivudually compress/limit tracks or do the final mix only?
depends on the inturment, i used to always add compression to all my inturments as i thought that was the thing to do. But i stop doing that, only add it on bass sometimes and snare when need it, or other interuments that need a consistent beat instead of a wide dynamic range of volume.

Are you wanting a portable recorder? or would you use a DAW?
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Portable is fine well and dandy but 99% of what I will do will be in house so probably DAW is fine. My only concern is $$$. Hopefully we can keep it below a grand ;D
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Portable is fine well and dandy but 99% of what I will do will be in house so probably DAW is fine. My only concern is $$$. Hopefully we can keep it below a grand ;D
I like my digi001. it has 8 inputs-8 outputs.

Ran me like $800. Protools is very easy.

I try using cubase SX so i could later try different hardware, but i hate it, not as easy as protools.

It has 2 pre-amps, with 6 line-level inputs.
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2 concerns

Only concerns I have with PC based recording (which I have done to an extent before) is

A)Quality. Does your computer have to be SUPER fast MAXED with memory to get the quality/reliability of a hardware based system. For example, sometimes when using Sonar I get 'dropouts' even though I have a 1.8GHz with 512M DDRam unless I put the latency at some unreasonable level. (I like realtime)

B)Required harddrive space. Am I going to need a SUPER large, extrra FAST HD (scuzzy mebbie?)

If these will not be a prob I am drooling over the Digi002!

Can i Use these products with Sonar or do I have to use ProTools?
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Re: 2 concerns

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Only concerns I have with PC based recording (which I have done to an extent before) is

A)Quality. Does your computer have to be SUPER fast MAXED with memory to get the quality/reliability of a hardware based system. For example, sometimes when using Sonar I get 'dropouts' even though I have a 1.8GHz with 512M DDRam unless I put the latency at some unreasonable level. (I like realtime)

B)Required harddrive space. Am I going to need a SUPER large, extrra FAST HD (scuzzy mebbie?)

If these will not be a prob I am drooling over the Digi002!

Can i Use these products with Sonar or do I have to use ProTools?
protools released ASIO drivers to extend out of protools.

I am running a 1.4ghz athlon with XP and 256 megs of ram with 60 gig harddrive. I have no problems.

i normally record at 44hz and 24 bits, when i record at 48hz it does slow my computer down, i bet 96k will bog it down big time.

Great software to me personally thou.
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Question Digi 002

Looking at the digi002 specs I see 8 in/8 out. So in order to use this correctly I have to have 8 seperate inputs on the comp or they just for use in 'stand alone' mode. I assume all audio is transferred via FIREWIRE and that should be the only INPUT for the audio from the 002. Right?
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Re: Digi 002

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Looking at the digi002 specs I see 8 in/8 out. So in order to use this correctly I have to have 8 seperate inputs on the comp or they just for use in 'stand alone' mode. I assume all audio is transferred via FIREWIRE and that should be the only INPUT for the audio from the 002. Right?
the only input from digi002 to the computer is the firewire.

on the digi002 and 001 there are 8 in 8 out. But you can actaully have 18 inputs/outputs with correct gear.

8 in 8 out on digi002
8 in 8 out via lightpipe ADAT
2 in 2 out via SPDIF

I wish i could afford the digi002, i got the digi001, before 002 came out, even with the 002, i still would of bought the 001. $800 for what i got, can't beat it.
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Digi002

Well I think I can snag one for around 1600 so if I sell my Korg D12 for around $500-600 I will just need to come with a grand. (Heh no prob huh?)

PS - Did I mention my credit cards are maxed.

LOL.

Long live pro audio and high intrest credit cards!
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Also back on COmpressors/Limiters.....

Do any Directx/vst PLUGINS compare to hardware versions?
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Protools is very easy.
Really!? Maybe you could teach me!

Meanwhile I'll stick with Cakewalk.

To be fair, I've only tried PT Free , so I'm a little jaded.
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Really!? Maybe you could teach me!

Meanwhile I'll stick with Cakewalk.

To be fair, I've only tried PT Free , so I'm a little jaded.
Protools rock
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I would have to say don't judge pro tools free to the LE or HD versions.....its not even close. I have tried lots of different software and PT's was the winner, that and logic platinum were great!
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