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Couple of Noob Questions

Alright, I have this 4-measure drum line (kick, snare, ghost) I've created in the piano roll using the dr-008 which goes from measures 1,2,3,4.

#1: Say my current snare is on D4 and I want it to be the snare on D5. Well when I select only the snare line and then move it to D5 from D4, my kick and ghost lines automatically move to the right by 4 measures so now, my snare is on measures 1,2,3,4 while my kick and ghost are now on measures 5,6,7,8. What do I need to turn on/off to stop the rest of the track from moving like this?

#2: When I take this 4 measure drum line and set loop points at the beginning and end, it plays off. The first time it plays through, it plays fine, but all successive times that it loops, the first beat of the drum line plays BEFORE it should, so like it plays in the middle of the 4th measure instead of the beginning of the first. This first note is the only one that is "off" the rest play back fine.

I've been able to recreate this "phenom" on a regular basis with any track I've set loop points on. However, when I don't have any loop points set, it plays fine. Also, rendering it to audio, it plays as it should.

#3: Not related to the first two problems. Can you view grid-lines in the arrange page, like in the piano roll? I can't seem to find how if you can.

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Hehe, sorry.

I'm using Sonar 2.1
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Re: Couple of Noob Questions

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#3: Not related to the first two problems. Can you view grid-lines in the arrange page, like in the piano roll? I can't seem to find how if you can.
Right-click on the Track-View and select Properties. Tweak from there...

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#1: Say my current snare is on D4 and I want it to be the snare on D5. Well when I select only the snare line and then move it to D5 from D4, my kick and ghost lines automatically move to the right by 4 measures so now, my snare is on measures 1,2,3,4 while my kick and ghost are now on measures 5,6,7,8. What do I need to turn on/off to stop the rest of the track from moving like this?
I don't know, I've never had the problem... The notes I move behave the way they should.
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I was using Acid Pro before Sonar, and in Acid there was a thing called "Ripple Edits" that when turned on, would move the rest of the track over when editing or deleting certain sections. I'm wondering if there is something similar in Sonar that I can turn off?
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Explain "move the rest of the track over". I have trouble picturing it...
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OK, say you had a measure you wanted to get rid of, well in Acid if you had Ripple Edits on, if you deleted it, the rest of the track would shift back one measure. If it was off, the rest of the track position would stay the same, you would just have an empty measure.

I'm just wondering if it is something similar in Sonar because everytime I try to edit in the piano roll, it pushes the rest of the track past the edit spot forward a measure. Like I described before - I was editing the Snare line, and everytime I would try to change it, it would push the kick and the snare to the next empty measures.

I'll be at my computer tonight. I'll try to recreate it step by step, and post what I'm doing.
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Hm... you may check "Snap to grid" feature in PRV. Go PRV, and watch this...
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...Okay, I watch it, then what, Jaymz ?

...right click, open the "snap to grid" option. Make sure you didn't select "measure" or "whole" as standard duration...
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Okay... so that was a wrong answer... For a wrong question... DOH!!

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OK, say you had a measure you wanted to get rid of, well in Acid if you had Ripple Edits on, if you deleted it, the rest of the track would shift back one measure. If it was off, the rest of the track position would stay the same, you would just have an empty measure.
So this is your problem...
Have you select the clip in the Track View, and right click -> Drag & Drop Options.. ? What does it show ?


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Awesome, you nailed it! It said "Move Old Over to Make Room". When I changed it to "Blend Old & New" that solved it.

Cool, thanks for your time James A. and moskus.
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