Adat Edit And Purchasing An Adat

[Hmurray]

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask for some advise about purchasing an adat and the Adat Edit Card.

I want to purchase either the XT20 or LT20 ADAT to expanded my
studio. I currently have a Delta 1010 with two 1604 mackies. I want to also purchase the Adat Edit card so that I can have 16 tracks.

Will this setup work for 16 tracks?, also has anyone had any problems with a delta1010 and using it with XT or LT20 using the
Adat edit card?

My Computer System:
Ram: over 300
Athlon Processor 1000
Motherboard: Abit

Thanks

[muttley]

If you can afford it choose the XT, I can't help with edit card. I like the extras on the XT.

I think AMS has adats for around $600, Close outs I think.

[Dethska]

I own the ADAT/EDIT and wish I didn't. The fact that it doesn't work with Win2k or Xp really bugs me. And I don't think Alesis even supports it anymore. I had a real hard time getting them to send me the software (it wasn't included with mine.) I suppose it works all right to get tracks onto the computer from the ADAT but I think that there must be something that works a lot better.

[MiXit-G]

Stay away from the adat/edit card.

[Track Rat]

I went through a couple of ADAT Edit cards and they never functioned as advertised. I like Alesis products but that card was DOA.
What are you trying to accomplish? Sixteen simultainious recording tracks?

[Hmurray]

I would like to thank you all for the advise.

Has anyone bought the new delta 1010 box that allows you to hook up an adat to the delta 1010 sound card? If so, has anyone had any problems?

[twonky]

I am using the ADAT PCI card w/ Samplitude, using the ADAT as A/D converters. It works flawlessly.
I was not, however able to transfer tracks to and from my IDE drive from the ADAT, I could only do that using my SCSI drive. But w/ this new set up I dont even use ADAT tape anymore.

I was interested in trying a similar set up to yours i.e. using something like the Delta and then using the ADAT PCI card as an extra eight ins. I was warned that there might be clocking issues between the two cards.

I never have had a chance to figure it out. If you get this set up working, please let us know.

[foreverain4]

i have 3 adat xt20's and a the adat edit pci card and have had no problems transfering tracks to and from adat with IDE harddrives. i dont know what is up with you guys... in fact, since the only remote i had was the LRC, i used the adat transfer software for transport control. it was quite nice, all i had to to was type in the exact location i wanted to go to and BAAM! i was there. i had this card co existing nicely with my gadget labs wave pro 828 with no problems. i have since moved to a motu 2408mkIII. it is nice to be able to transfer all 24 tracks at once....

[foreverain4]

what were some of the specific problems you guys had with the card?

[twonky]

Hey Forevervain4,

I have been eyballing the MOTU 2408 for a while now. Hoave you ever had the occasion to use it and the ADATs at the same time while tracking in to the PC?

Or have you ever used the ADATs
as an extra set of A/Ds via the MOTU while using its analog ins?





thanks for any information.

[foreverain4]

yes i have. it worked flawlessly. however, it was only 16 tracks. i used the 8 analog and 8ch of LP from the adats. the only thing is that you would not be getting a full 24 bit A/D conversion. i love my motu, but i didnt at first. i had alot of trouble getting the thing to actuallly work. alot of frustration, but it was worth it. the problem was motu's initial drivers. they have since released an update.

[twonky]

thanks man, thats waht I wanted to hear ( I think)!

I have heard from many people that getting the MOTUs to work was a bit of a nightmare.

So just to clarify(sorry to be a pain) you are saying that: you have bussed the ADAT tracks through the MOTU for a total of 16 track (8 being 24bit and the other 8 from the ADAT being 16bit or 20bit, depending on the model) sucessfully?

OR

That you have run 8 tracks throught the MOTU and 8 via the ADAT PCI card into your PC at the same time?

thanks again
Twonky

[foreverain4]

i do not use the adat edit card anymore. it was 16trks via motu using the 8 analog and 8 of the lightpipe (converted by the adat). this will show up in your software and be written as a 24bit file, but the last 4 bits are just blank, cause the adat converters are only 20 bit. the lightpipe channels appear in your software just like analog channels. another bit of info that you might like, it IS possible to record 24 bit onto your adat xt20. you have to have external converters, and you will only have 6 tracks instead of 8. it puts the extra bits onto the higher tracks. so, if you had, say, a 24bit digital mixer doing your A/D conversion and you went via lightpipe to your recorder.

[foreverain4]

also, when using your adat as a converter, make sure your sample rates match. this will save you some headache!

[foreverain4]

were you expiriencing dropouts and such? for the longest time, i had this problem, where i would get done transfering 8 tracks, only to find that some of them were several samples shorter than the others. i figured out, there is a place to set the clock of the card to external. i did this and everything was rock solid after that. you still used the adat connect for transport though.

[Dethska]

Sonusman,


I'm glad to hear that I wasn't the only one. I bought the card before I started coming to this forum. Learned a valuable lesson: never ever trust a manufacturers claims. I couldn't return mine either. I had a big long argument with a guy at Musician's Friend about opened software/hardware. I didn't even receive any software with my card and they still wouldn't let me return it because I could have gotten drivers off the card. Like the drivers would do me any good without the card. The whole experience turned me off of Alesis and Musician's Friend forever.

For those of you who got the ADAT PCI card to work: if you need another one, let me know. I'll part with mine for real cheap.

[MiXit-G]

I got it to work on my brothers celeron 466 but no go with my 1 gig athlon.

I think your computer hardware configuration is the key and the age of it, more than likely, alesis tested with intel only, everyone i know that has amd or via the chipset gets a bumrush.

Now with sophisticated buss stepping and ACPI the old adat/edit card/driver is a bit out of its depth...good riddance!

[Track Rat]

Originally posted by twonky
I have heard from many people that getting the MOTUs to work was a bit of a nightmare.

Twonky

I've been using a 2408 mkII with ADATs and a PC for years (and for the last year, an HD24) with zero problems. It was the most painless soundcard I've ever installed.