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Unhappy Acid Pro 3,should I stick with it or......

I have Acid Pro 3 and i have used it to record music from my Roland 840ex into my computer using just a stereo 8th inch connectors into a Creative Labs Sound Blaster card.You see,I first record each track one by one until I have them all on there and then I start using Acid to edit via cut and paste and volume and pan editing each track.Take a listen at mp3.com/Maligna.I can't seem to get the volume high enough cause then my levels start peaking and distorting. Well ,I know thats not the best way to go when doing dig. recording so my question is,should I stick with that editing program or just get another one like Cakewalk or Cubase etc.?Is there another type of editing program from Sound Forge other than Cubase etc. that anyone of you can recommend to me?Thanks.
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Your post is some what confusing.......

Sound Forge IS an editor.

Acid 3 is NOT an editor, neither is Cubase or Sonar by the way. They are intended to be used as arrangers and multitrackers.

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Vegas3.0--- I would suggest as your best bet, since you;re already familiar with the ACID interface, its basically the same.
It has some editing audio features, and allows for more flexability in the multitracking than ACID, plus you get soundforgestudio with it if you want to do a little more detailed editing.

If the recording is low, you can just right click on the event, and flip the switch to normalize and then adjust the track volume where you want it... that feature is not in ACID 3.0

Plus you get all the directX-FX...maybe you get them all with ACID3.. I can't remember
I use it, and find it to be a very stable program.
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Why is my post confusing Spisterwun?Well anyways, so which Sound Forge?SO you wouldnt recomend Cakewalk?
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Well I'll go with that and try to find something from Sound Forge.I really need the correct type of editing program out there.Its just there are so many.
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Why is my post confusing Spisterwun?Well anyways, so which Sound Forge?SO you wouldnt recomend Cakewalk?
In your original post, you said:
"Is there another type of editing program from Sound Forge other than Cubase etc. that anyone of you can recommend to me?"

Sound Forge is the name of the editor that Sonic Foundry makes. Sonic Foundry is the company that makes ACID and Vegas as well.


Steinberg makes Cubase - Steinberg also makes WaveLab - their two-track editor.

I don't know what Cakewalk offers along the lines of editing.

I think some of the confusion is in the terminology you are using: An editor is traditionally a two track system that allows you to "edit" a given sound file.

I think maybe you are using the term "editor" as a synonym for "multi-track recorder"


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Oh,

Well to clarify,you see I would like to dump my tracks from my Roland VS 840 8 trk onto my computer.BUT,I would like to do it so that they are in separate tracks.THEN,I can go into them and cut,paste,make louder,pan,add this and that,and so on to each track if needed.THEN,mix down to 2 track.And burn to CD. Well i have been doing that lately with the Acid Pro 3.I know thats not to much the way to go but that was my only option at that time.I would like to upgrade now. But do you get what I am going at now?I don't really want to record onto my computer because then I would have to relocate it to my practice room,plus I don't have mics,just one.ANd I don't have the proper sound card for recording into the computer.I am fixing to get another one though.
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Do you have an external CD burner that you can use with the VS?

If so, then you can burn each track to a CD, then use ACID to extract each track from that CD - bypassing the A/D converters on your sound blaster. You will get much better results from doing that if you are able.


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Unfortunatly no,I don't have an ext.CD burner.*sniff* SO thats why my recordings sound thin still.Take a listen on: mp3.com/Maligna and tell me what you think. I hear the optic connector helps in the sence of waht i am talking about.Or am I wrong,or are they wrong?
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..... I hear the optic connector helps in the sence of waht i am talking about.......
Yes, you are correct. If you have SPDIF OUT or LIGHTPIPE OUT, you won't have any degradation of your signal (as you transfer from machine to computer).

The only problems is that you don't have SPDIF IN or LIGHTPIPE IN on your Sound Blaster card.
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Ok,what I do have is an optic out and digital co-axil out or something like that but the card doesnt and I just need to find the right sound card that has one.I just don't have a scsi.
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Talking Ok,to ad to the many annoying questions of mine....

So, what do you all think of maybe,Sound Forge digital audio editor 6.0 from Sonic Foundry?What would be the difference in that program between Sonic Foundrys Sound Forge Studio 6.0?What are the differences?
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Get SF 6.0.
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http://www.midiman.net/products/m-audio/delta66.php

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Sound Forge Studio does not support DX effects. There are some other differences, but you get the idea. It's like "sound forge lite." Good but incomplete.
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Very good analogy, DK.
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Chammy, if what you want to do is to move more than two tracks (stereo) into a computer software editor, then Sound Forge 6 (or any other version) won't do it! SF6 ONLY deals with stereo. In order to use more than two tracks you either have to go to a sequencer, such as Cubase, Sonar 2, Power Tracks Pro Audio, etc., or go to Cool Edit Pro 2, which will allow you to import up to 128 tracks and then mix and edit them down to two track stereo and burn to CD (with their free, but optional download, CD burner). I would suggest you go to www.Syntrillium.com and download the demo version which is fully working for 21 days, and see if it will do what you want. If it does, it's $250 USD and can be registered by sending them a credit card payment and they will send you the activation key.

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PS Power Tracks Pro Audio 8 is only $49 and is an amazing program for the money! It is really close to being as good as Cubase and Sonar which cost $300 and (mostly) up. It is available from www.pgmusic.com .
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Hey Tomcat,how would you rate Cakewalk?Or did someone just answer me on that?Darn ,decisions decisions decisions.
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Hi Chammy,

All I can say is that Sonar 2 won't run on my machine (a Compaq laptop with a 700 Mhz PIII with 14 gig HD and 512 Ram). When I go to play back the audio, it clicks and crackles and pops and, as far as I'm concerned, is simply unuseable. On the other hand, both Cubase VST/32 and Power Tracks Pro Audio 8 work just fine. There probably is a solution to the Sonar problem, but I want to spend my time recording music and not being a computer troubleshooter, so my feeling is that if I have a couple of programs that work and do the same thing, I'm not going to spend a lot of my time trying to make something else work when it doesn't want to. HTH

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Well Tomcat,I guess i'll try the Power Trascks Pro Audio.Right now I am straped for cash so I need to get those tracks on the computer from my Roland 8trk and online.I'm going to try it.
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Well I just got done reading about the Power Tracks one and it looks like its just another loop based music sequencer.Kinda like ASonic Foundry's Acid Music.How about N-Track Studio 3.0 or something like that?I am sorry for asking some many questions.I just live around any music stores that carry any audio editing soft ware so I want to make sure before I order anything.
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You could use Sonic Foundry's Vegas Video 3.0 for your tracking.

They should have a demo version at their home site.
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