Made in America?

[rustyfingers]

I've decided to make an attempt at restoring the economy by purchasing only American produced products from now on. When I say "American produced", I mean designed and built in the US.

These are the companies that I know of (music gear related). Please add more to the list. Next time you get ready to purchase save a little more money and buy a US made product. It can't hurt.

Presonus
Mackie
Sytek
Gibson
Fender
Martin
Taylor

I know there are tons more. List them here.
Dennis

PS I'm gonna' post this in several forums so don't get pissed.

[Tom Cram]

Mackie, Gibson, and Fender all have stuff made overseas.

Thanks for playing.

Tom Cram
dbx Senior Technical Support
(801) 568-7530
tcram@dbxpro.com

"I should have been a plumber."
-Albert Einstein-

[jslator]

Originally posted by rustyfingers
I've decided to make an attempt at restoring the economy by purchasing only American produced products from now on.

OK. Well then, I'm going to restore the economy by purchasing only Canadian produced products from now on. Here's what I figure is safe so far:

Bryston
Electrix
Godin
IZ Radar
Labatts
Larivee
Mapex
Paradigm
Radial
Traynor
Ward Beck
Yorkville

Anything else?

[maestro_dmc]

I'm going to restore the World's Economy by only buying products made on earth.

Dang, no more deleriou5? records.

[rustyfingers]

Originally posted by jslator
OK. Well then, I'm going to restore the economy by purchasing only Canadian produced products from now on. Here's what I figure is safe so far:

Bryston
Electrix
Godin
IZ Radar
Labatts
Larivee
Mapex
Paradigm
Radial
Traynor
Ward Beck
Yorkville

Anything else?

OK, good shot. I'll widen my scope a bit and say "No more overseas stuff." Why?

I want:
Yorkville monitors
Seagull guitar

"Most Americans wish they were Canadian"

[eeldip]

my macro economics is pretty weak, but an awful lot of our economic wealth is based on overseas manufacturing.

really very little of your money ends up there. what, you think the chinese factory workers are taking home a lot of dough? even their boses dont make all that much compared to a US CEO.

you buy something like nike sneakers for $100 and maybe $4 goes overseas. the rest supports the us economy.

[pundit]

I've decided to make an attempt at restoring the economy by purchasing only Australian produced products from now on. When I say "Australian produced", I mean designed and built in 'Oz'.

These are the companies and artists that I know of.
Please add more to the list. Next time you get ready to purchase save a little more money and buy a Aussie made product.
It can't hurt.

Rode mics - (shadupp about the capsules!)
Maton Guitars - (Ben Harper has one - Now why didn't he buy a Martin instead?)
Fairlight
Lorantz Loudspeakers
ARX Audio Products
JLM Audio
Buzz Audio (New Zealand - just next door!)

etc.

Music by...

SilverChair
AC/DC
INXS
Savage Garden
Keith Urban
The Vines
Men at Work
LRB (Little River Band)
The Easybeats
Bee Gees
Natalie Imbruglia
Delta Goodrem
Tina Arena
Olivia Newton John
Peter Allen
Kylie Minogue
Powderfinger
Midnight Oil
The Waifs
The Wiggles
Air Supply (yeech!)

etc.

Movies containing or directed by...

Mel Gibson
Russel Crowe (well he is really a Kiwi!)
Nicole Kidman
Kate Blanchett
Toni Collette
Simon Baker
Naomi Watts
Rachel Griffiths
Guy Pearce
Heath Ledger
Hugo Weaving
Elle Macpherson
Judy Davis
Paul Hogan
Anthony LaPaglia
Jack Thompson
Noah Taylor
Steve ("crikey") Irwin
David Wenham
Philip Noyce
Scott Hicks
Peter Weir
Baz Luhrmann

etc.

BTW the new Pontiac GTO about to be release in the US is made and designed where??...

Ah well... You know what they say?...

Everyman is an island!!

[MISTERQCUE]

Originally posted by Tom Cram
Mackie, Gibson, and Fender all have stuff made overseas.

Thanks for playing.

Tom Cram
dbx Senior Technical Support
(801) 568-7530
tcram@dbxpro.com

"I should have been a plumber."
-Albert Einstein-

Fender still manufacturers gits and basses in the U.S. also as well
as overseas !

[jslator]

Originally posted by pundit
Please add more to the list.

How could you forget Buzz Audio?!

[pundit]

Originally posted by jslator
How could you forget Buzz Audio?!

Well that's a New Zealand company, but seeing I included Russell Crowe in my last post, I suppose I could say we're all from down under!

[jslator]

Originally posted by pundit
Well that's a New Zealand company...

That would explain it then.

[regebro]

The idea that a countries economy benefits most from you buying native things, even if these are more expensive or inferior to foreign competitirs, are false.

The best thing you can do for your countrys economy is to work hard, for free.

[Even]

Help the economy... drive fast and pay your fines on time

[bostonfan2]

"you buy something like nike sneakers for $100 and maybe $4 goes overseas. the rest supports the us economy"

Well the rest of that money is not being spent on middle income workers that pay most of the taxes that run our country ( U.S.A.)
as a Tool & Die maker from the midwest i can see whats happening, the big companys for the sake of profits move there factories to china (even mexico is to expensive for them now)
this eliminates money spent on health care, worker safety(osha)
and the advantage of an unlimited work force.our goverment is doing nothing to protect these jobs, umlike other countries such as Canada, our Mayor here in Chicago has been complaining about the film industry leaving America for Canada, even the hit
"chicago" was filmed in Canada ! they have a rule that no americans can be hired as help and i say Kudos to them for protecting there jobs, (i also think America subsidizes the canadien health care system by the fact they spend almost nothing on there military... why? they have us to protect them let us pay for it ..but thats another matter...lol )..Bostonfan2

[c7sus]

Originally posted by eeldip
my macro economics is pretty weak, but an awful lot of our economic wealth is based on overseas manufacturing.

really very little of your money ends up there. what, you think the chinese factory workers are taking home a lot of dough? even their boses dont make all that much compared to a US CEO.

you buy something like nike sneakers for $100 and maybe $4 goes overseas. the rest supports the us economy.

Do you honestly believe all the manufacturing facilities were set up in SE Asia for 4 cents on the dollar?

You are talking out your ass.

"The rest supports the US economy."

Stupidest comment I have ever read in my life.

Listen to something besides Rush and Ollie North.

[ozraves]

Originally posted by bostonfan2
even mexico is to expensive for them now

Not really. There continues to be a white man fascination with China. Shure makes some of its equipment in Mexico. To me, China makes sense for a person wanting to buy manufacturing services a la carte from preexisting factories. Otherwise, I can't see any good reason to do business with the Chinese.

Steve
www.mojopie.com

[bostonfan2]

Yes there is still many factories in mexico, there are also some towns that are now deserted because they were moved to china,
on one hand its nice to get gear at great prices because its imported, but in the long run we are shooting our selves in the foot. almost everything we buy in America is now made in china,
mexico says they will lose almost all there shoe business to china within 4 years, by 2007 over 80 % of all molds and dies will come from china. they even make the Green Berets hats in china...yuk
but its not the chinese fault its american businessmen that are doing it, and then others have to follow or they are done, you think anyone will be able to build mics to compete with studio projects in this country? no way or Alan would be doing himself.

Bostonfan2

[littledog]

last time I looked there were members of this forum from all over the world, especially Europe and Australia. Why would it be in their best interest to only buy American products? And even 100% made in America products are using a lot of individual components that were manufactured elsewhere, so where do you draw the line?

I'm all for supporting my local economy, but I don't think that I would ever hesitate about buying an imported product if it was far and away the best of it's type and price.

Too bad you won't be able to get Stephen Paul's new mic when it comes out. Don't worry, we'll let you know how it sounds. And I'm sure you will sell all your Neumann, AKG, Focusrite, Roland, Yamaha, Sony, Audio Technica, etc. gear and buy only American-made replacements.

Assuming you can find any... (Guess you won't be watching any more television...)

[bostonfan2]

"last time I looked there were members of this forum from all over the world, especially Europe and Australia. Why would it be in their best interest to only buy American "


it wouldnt. and i agree with you that buying the best products
no matter where they are made is the first choice, and you wont have to let me know how stephens mic sounds ill try it myself..
you mis understood my post, easy to do in a forum like this.

Bostonfan2

[pundit]

Here in Australia it's extremely difficult not to buy something that's made in China. For example if you walk into a clothing shop I would extimate at least 80% of the stock is made in China, and that applies to every store in the country!

Footware is no different.

Then there's electrical goods, Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Hitachi etc. either manufactured in China or Malaysia or Thailand etc.

The same applies to most general hardware items, kids toys etc.

The bottom line is most consumers don't care... they would care if something was made here and cost twice as much... they wouldn't buy it!

Our population is too small to support largescale manufacturing only to supply the local market if the prices are to be kept competative with the imports. And of course no one would work for $50 a week anyway!

There has been some success stories however take Rode mics for instance. They sell more mics overseas than they do here and not just on price alone. They have been, on average, generally well received. Okay the capsules have been sourced from China but I believe in the near future Rode is planning to manufacture them locally.

I was in Mexico about two years back and, while having breakfast at the hotel, overheard a conversation between two American businessmen. They were setting up some kind of manufacturing plant down there. The discussion centered around keeping the workers wages as low as possible and 'paying off' local officials to ensure everything ran 'smoothly'!

They didn't seem bothered that I may have overheard them.

I guess it was nothing out of the ordinary to them!

[littledog]

Originally posted by bostonfan2

you mis understood my post, easy to do in a forum like this.

ummm, i kind of thought i was responding to rustyfingers. i don't know enough about mexico to comment on your post.

[Disco_Dave]

I work for a printing company, in China they can print for only a little more money money than the paper costs us...and we have to pay for wages, inks, rates, heat and light on top of that. If you are buying enough product than the extra cost of moving stuff from Beijing to London rather than from London to Manchester is actually pretty much irrelevant.

[F_cksia]

hey speeddemon, what does our country actually contribute to the pro-audiomarket?

Philips..?

[christiaan]

Originally posted by F_cksia
What does our country actually contribute to the pro-audiomarket?

www.koch-amps.com

[rustyfingers]

I hope that this thread wasn't taken out of context. I didn't mean to step on anybodys toes or cause a riff.

What I know is this: There are lots of jobs leaving this country because the manufacturers can get it made cheaper overseas. Not that the quality is any better here or there its just less expensive to manufacturer. I know ALOT of tech support guys have lost their jobs to India because they are willing to do the same job for less money.

I'm not dickin' any product or the country in which it was made. I just made a decision to purchase American products. I'm tired of my friends begin laid off and hearing guys ON THIS BOARD being laid off because our economy is in the shitter. Will it help? Probably not. But at least I'll know I tried.

Nuff Said
Dennis