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Old 12-28-2002
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Aux bus enable

Every time I try to send tracks to either Aux bus, Sonar will not play the entire song. The problem only occurs once I enable the aux send on any one track. Am I missing something obvious
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...what do you mean by "Sonar will not play the entire song" ? Is the song Drop out somewhere in the middle of the song ? Or the song ain't being played at all ? Or you can't hear the tracks you route to the Aux bus ?


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I had a similar problem last night. I have a project with around 15 tracks. Most of the existing tracks are being routed to one of two Aux Buses that I have set up.

Last night I added a new track and tried to route it to Aux 1. When I hit the play button, the cursor starts moving but no sound comes out. Turn off the Aux Send and voila, music. So at this point I'm thinking I'm overtaxing the available resources.

But here is an even stranger part. I set up new bus (Aux 3) and duplicate the plugins I have on Aux 1, then I route the new track to Aux 3, and everything works fine.

So how come I can add even more FX to the project and a 3rd bus without problems, but I can't send the same track to an existing bus? Seems to me the former would require the most resources, if that's what the problem is.

Does anyone know if maybe there is some type of limit to the # of tracks that can be routed to any single bus?

Sorry to grab your thread, Charlie, but maybe the problems are related.
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The song doesn't play at all. I click on the play icon and nothing happens. period. Once I disable all of the aux sends, then the play icon works fine and the song plays usual
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Even though you should be able to put as many effects on your Auxes as your processor can handle, mabye Sonar is written for a max amount anyway. But, I really don't know...


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what plug-in do you have in the aux bus?

i upgraded to win2000 before autotune3 was available and autotune2 didn't work with win2k. whenever i would put autotune into one of the track inserts my song wouldn't play.

so... maybe its the plug-in.

if not, check cakewalk.com for a patch. what version of cakewalk sonar are you using?
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This was with Sound Forge multiband dynamics processor. The Sonar is v .1.3.1. I think you raise an excellent point, however. I will go back and try the same thing with a sonar effect and see what happpens
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For some reason, most sound forge effects wont run in Cake (at least on my system), and vice-versa.

Try the effect on a single track to see if you get an error message, it's possible that the message wont show up from the aux bus.
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Can anyone explain how these Aux buses work in combination with Virtual Mains? Why can't I find Aux bus send/returns on a Virtual Main for instance? And when I send a track output to one of the Virtual Mains, and use the Aux Bus on this particular seperate track, I guess I should send the output of the connected Aux Bus to the same output as the track also? Otherwise my volumefader doesn't seem to work...
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Can anyone explain how these Aux buses work in combination with Virtual Mains?
The output of a Bus is sent to a VMain just like the output of a Track. The output of a Track goes directly to the VMain. However, when you set up an Aux Bus, some portion of the Track output is sent to the Bus first, and then delivered to the VMains.

Normally you would route all your busses and all your tracks to the same VMain. (Although there are occasions when you might want to use different Mains for some specific reason). If you want the track fader to control both the track volume and the bussed track volume, you need to toggle the Bus to Post Fader rather than Pre Fader. You will see the pre/post toggle to the far right of the area where you enable the Aux Bus. Left in Pre mode, the track output is sent to the Bus unaffected by the fader.
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Thanks, Dach! Very helpful
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I'm not sure that Sonar has it's act together when it comes to the Aux bus. I have 3 mains set up which are Vocal, Music and SPDIF Effects. I send a vocal track to Aux 1 buss which points to the SPDIF Effects Main then bring this signal back into Sonar on a track which is audio/armed to get the effects routed to the mix. No problem so far this works great.

If however I put a compressor on Aux 2 and send the same vocal to this alternative buss, at the same time, the SPDIF in on my effects track goes dead. The compressor works fine but I am losing the ability to split the vocal to multiple different Aux busses.

Kinda the same thing but a little different twist. I am using the Ultrafunk plug-ins on compression.
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