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Cool new toy too tinker with...all these options...

I have recently installed a new Delta 66 on my machine, alongside a SB16 (it only took like 5 days to install). Uh, I'm finding the vast amount of options overwhelming at this stage.

What I would like to be able to do, and what I think is the right angle, is to use the SB for mere playback and monitoring purposes only. Utilizing the Delta to record only. (If I had some nice nearfield monitors, Im guessing then Im better off using the Delta, for playback and monitoring)

What I'm doing right now is running a right and left unbalanced line from my mixer into the 1 & 2 inputs of the Delta. This is stereo I believe, please correct me if I'm wrong. (It looks right cause both the Delta and my Behringer mixers are showing a right and left.)

Now from there I've got 2 unbalanced lines from output 1 & 2 of the Delta, spliced with adapters into the line in of the SB. The reason I did this was because n-track doesn't want to let me use the two cards together (ASIO and MME). But then I found the other options for the Delta, in File>Preferences>Wave Devices. So I changed the settings too Inputs ; 1/2 MME Delta...Outputs SB PCI MME. It lets me do that, but the sound comes out all farty and slow as hell.

So far with this setup, and a few others I have tried I still seem to only be able to get sound out of my left speaker. I have moved the pan sliders on the Delta control panel, and it seems to look right in the Delta mixer. ie the signal in the mixer reacts to me slidin sliders....

Maybe Im overlooking the obvious?!?!?! (I bet I am)

I know that eventually with enough time well wasted I can figure this out for myself, but I dont want to trial and error this simple thing till next XMAS too!...Any ideas or ways to help setup my setup for optimal use would be much appreciated ...

PS Im leaving for holidays on Friday, itd be nice to lay down 1 nice tune in the day before that happens
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umm...

well...I have some semblance of stereo...I plugged a couple of little practice amps into the out's 1 & 2 of the delta, and that works...however that isnt really a great solution.

I tried from there running a line from each amp, spliced into the SB, to see if it would be stereo on the output of the SB. It isn't, still the same mono effect on the left side. I know for sure the SB line in is stereo whereas the mic in is mono. So theoretically I can't see why this isn't working....

Another thing, monitoring problems aside, Im getting an awful lot of crack snapple pops on my playback...Im guessing this is related to some 4 in 1 driver deally i read about earlier i need to update, but Ill be damned if I can rememeber where I read that...any ideas ???

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The output of an SBLive is a 1/8" stereo plug. Make sure your adapter is not a simple Y-adapter, but a 1/8" stereo to true left-right outputs.

I've been using an Echo Mia with an SBlive combo for well over a year with Zero problems. SBlive line-out goes to the tape-ins on my mixer board, whose main outputs go into the input of my Mia.

If you're still getting crackling and popping it's probably due to a driver problems somewhere. Are you sure you have ALL updated video, pci, soundcard and bios drivers (and hopefully you checked the Delta's compatibility with the manufacturer against your motherboard type before you bought it... most soundcard mfg's can tell you if they have issues with know mobos.)

Be sure to drop a note on the ntrack board, 'cause several of them are using Deltas and have already gone through those problems.
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TRS

all of my adapters are TRS...the Y too...or is there a possibility somehow this isnt stereo yet?hmmm...(hehe I never checked compatibility, I just got a good deal on the card, Ive known all along my comp was crap, I just hoped beyond hope it will work till I can afford to build a new computer)
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Running the Delta into the SB is just an unnatural act

Assuming you at the very least have self-powered computer speakers, you should make or buy a "reversed" Y cable. That is, two TS male ends to plug into the delta's outputs, and a 1/4" or 1/8" TRS *female* end that you can plug your computer speakers into.

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I think Delta put new drivers on the web last week or fairly recently. Try them. I am using a Delta 44 but haven't installed the new drivers yet. The snap crackle and pop might be driver or video card related. I had alot when I istalled mine. I think I was at 4 days for the installation! Check whats running in the background on your computer. I have an API graphics card and the settings program that runs in the back for the video card messes with the sound card. Try closing all programs except n-track.

Don't know why you wouldn't have stereo. Do you have a stereo with speakers that has a line in on it (tape, cd, aux, video, etc)? I use a mixer into the Delta, out the Delta back to he mixer, out the mixer to my amp. You could do the same to a stereo receiver.

I also had problems with IRQ's with video and my old SB card. I just removed the SB card.
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Smile monitoring

Well thanks for all the info here guys. I also posted in n-track and found the replies to be nicely numerous . Basically I've given up on the old sb and just went with running lines into these old amps. (I dont even have a home stereo, I've gone in favor of ditching the tv and streo for my computer some time ago hehe).

As far as the crackly popping sounds, I think that was mostly buffer related. I havent fined tuned anything by any stretch, but it appears to be operational finally. I couldn't get it to work on ASIO settings at all, so I just selected inputs 1/2 and outputs 1/2 instead.

Once again thanks, I appreciate it.

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