Deep Purple In Rock: guitar sound?

[nessbass]

Hi folks!

Does anyone here have any information about the guitar sound on Deep Purple's In Rock album? I just recently dug around in old cassette tapes and found a copy of it. I was blown away by that sound! It is so highly resonant and vibrating, just as if the speaker was about to explode! So is there a source of information about the equipment and techniques used, and where can I find it? I'm especially talking about the first track 'Speed King', BTW.

David

[pipelineaudio]

Youll need some rat-tail and half round files...And a guitar you dont like too much

[nessbass]

Okay, the latter I can provide. But what do I amplify it with?

David

[pipelineaudio]

Any older marshall oughtta do the trick. Ones without master volume. The sustain and compression was power tubes cooking!

[nessbass]

thanks, pipeline!

I guess you just have to push that amp until it IS close to breakdown.

Any more suggestions?

[sjoko2]

3 pick-up les paul and a standard 1967 Marshall stack

[pipelineaudio]

he shouldda had a single coil strat with a scalloped neck on that album shouldnt he? and ALWAYS out of tune ?

[GordWait]

And they don't sound the same as
American made ones (different amps,
really).
Hmm, I'll have to see if my Pod can
make that sound. I still have that record
around somewheres..

[F_cksia]

in machine head he used an ordinary strat..
but in in rock? guess the same.

[pipelineaudio]

machine head was scalloped for sure..thats the weird out of tune vibrato

[nessbass]

I know that he used to be a strat player, and probably still is, but I can hardly believe that a strat is capable of producing such a sound. No offense to any of you strat-maniacs, it's still a great-sounding guitar for certain applications.

[pipelineaudio]

speed king is certainly a scalloped guitar with single coils, at least the version on In Rock. Most of the time a non mastervolume head on full blast would make that tone but there are parts of the song I wonder if there is some sort of whacko early 70's fuzz pedal. Damn now Im on a quest to find out!

Im a HUGE Blackmore fan too, tho I play scallops with humbuckers

I still LOVE " still Im sad" from the live rainbow album, every little bit of lead seems to fit in just right, kinda like tony iommi on " turn up the night "

[nessbass]

Thanks for your effort, pipelineaudio. It's much appreciated.

David

[Jan]

If I’m correctly informed, Blackmore never used the middle pickup of his strat. He slightly modified the pickup switching of his strat, swapping the middle and bridge pickup. This way he managed to use the “neck – bridge” combination as part of his signature sound.

[Stefan Elmblad]

His signature Fender Strat doesn't even have a middle pickup to simulate his habit of never using it.

[Flatpicker]

I read somewhere in an interview that he ran through an old reel-to-reel recorder’s preamp and than into the Marshalls. Don’t know if he started doing that before or after “In Rock” was recorded. He said he always hid the recorder behind his amps.
-Flatpicker

[Lectric_Lab]

I saw Blackmore play live in 1973, he had a Strat and 4 Marshall stacks, whether he used that in a studio who knows, probably not, but he had several stomp boxes....again who knows, but I love his guitar work in or outta tune...Ritchie rocks.

[chessrock]

Yea, I remember '02.

Pretty good year.

[Nakatira]

Btw I`m not a 100% sure on this but I`m pretty certain Ritchie also used a Gibson 335 around that time, it wasent untill after that record he became a all Strat.
I know he used the strat on numerous tracks, but I`m certain a 335 was in there as well.
I`m almost certian Child in time is 335.

I think I also read somewere that Ian paice was a student of Jim Marshall, And Marshall were at theire early stages when Deep Purple was formed.
And that Jim asked Ritchie for opinions on the amps, so he could be playing on custom made Marshalls.

Last I think he allways played the on 10n in volume, and used his volume control on the guitar to set gain levels.

[MCI2424]

Child in Time was the last track (and only track on In Rock) done with a Gibson ES335. The rest of the album was done with a black strat (stock) with a Marshall 400Watt custom built head and 2 12X4 cabinets. Recorded in an old mansion.

[kid klash]

Originally Posted by GordWait

It was likely a British made Marshall too. And they don't sound the same as American made ones (different amps, really)...

American-made Marshall amps? When did Marshall make amps in the states?

[cavedog101]

Most certainly Strat though I bow to MCI2424's take on the 335. I believe thats true also. I saw them before this and it was a 335 on everything till this record. I believe there is an extra stage in the treble on these Marshalls and an extra preamp tube. Jimmy Page did the same around this time (saw it myself...long story)... Marshalls are Made in the Empire.... Some are prepped for American release only and these are the ones without the multi-voltage transformers in them....And unfortunatly the PC boards and not hand wired.....This will affect the sound a bit..................

[Seafroggys]

Originally Posted by Nakatira

Btw I`m not a 100% sure on this but I`m pretty certain Ritchie also used a Gibson 335 around that time, it wasent untill after that record he became a all Strat.
I know he used the strat on numerous tracks, but I`m certain a 335 was in there as well.
I`m almost certian Child in time is 335.

I think I also read somewere that Ian paice was a student of Jim Marshall, And Marshall were at theire early stages when Deep Purple was formed.
And that Jim asked Ritchie for opinions on the amps, so he could be playing on custom made Marshalls.

Last I think he allways played the on 10n in volume, and used his volume control on the guitar to set gain levels.

I thought this album in its entirety was the last one done with the 335, and then he switched to Strat for the next album, Fireball. Meh, whatever the case, Child in Time has one of the sweetest guitar tones of all time, so I'm in love with the 335

Oh, and btw, In Rock is one of the greatest albums ever made.