Gina Help

[KingNothing]

Hey fellas

Im takin a major step up here pretty quick, gonna get me an actual mixin board. Never had the need until now.

This is probably a real dumb question, but how do I hook the mixer up to the Gina? Do I just run the L/R main outs on the mixer to the 1 and 2 inputs on the Gina?

One other thing: It is possible to place a bunch of mics on a drum kit, run all of them into the mixer, run the mixer into the Gina and have it so just the mic placed on the kick drum is recorded onto a different channel than all the other mics? That may be just absurd...I dunno...

Final thing: What are all the Outputs on the Gina for? I've never had a use for them.

Thanks for your help.

[This message has been edited by KingNothing (edited 05-16-2000).]

[Emeric]

I guess depending on how elaborate a mixer you have/buy. If you plan on doing drums, you will want some way of outputing one signal per mic input. This can be done buy using the inserts on each channel of the mixer or direct outs on each channel or using the busses on the mixer etc.

So, lets say you have 4 mic's on the kit, kick,snare,and left/right overheads.

Kick - mic input into channel 1 on the board, outputed from the insert or direct out, into channel one of the GINA
Snare - mic input into channel 2 on the board, outputed from the insert or direct out, into the channel two of the GINA.

So on and so forth.

For monitoring, you can run outputs 1 and 2 from the GINA back into your mixer via channels or some tape returns or however your board can do it.

Having 8 outputs seems to be up for debate. Originally, I was going to run all 8 outputs back into my board and do the mixing via an analog board. This would work, but I find I can get buy with the virtual mixer and not have to go through another D/A A/D.

I have used the other outputs for running into another amp for a headphone mix, but that's about all I've ever used more than 2 of the outputs for.

I'm not familiar with how the GINA software interface works, but this something you will have to figure out, enabling inputs 1 to 4 in your software etc.


[This message has been edited by Emeric (edited 05-16-2000).]

[steve pratt]

I'm not sure but in a word yes. Just go mains out and into your gina. That's what I do. And yes you can single out your kick drum BUT cause you only have 2 inputs on the gina it means that one of these will be the kick drum (as you desired) and the rest of your drum kit will have to be on the other channel. This meaans you will be limited as to the stereo effect you wanted .... if you get my drift. So far my drums have only been a drum machine, an Alesis sr16 . After I create my midi file I seperate all the drums and create about 5 or 7 midi tracks. 1 for kick 1 for snare etc. This works well, but understandably might not be much help to you if you only want to record live drums. The whole thing about having 8 outs is very bizzzare to me, especally when you consider that they are not even desigend to work simultaeously ( I think). You have to go into the set up menu and assign which 2 out you want to use and therefore dissable the others. Strange. Good luck.

[AlChuck]

You might also consider taking the signal from your sends if you have them straight on into the Gina card. Saves having to run them through the rest of the mixer's signal path (through EQ and faders, etc.), which will add some noise. If you're going to EQ and mix in the PC then this might be the best way to go.

[Emeric]

Ah.. I didn't know the Gina only had 2 inputs... my mistake.

What Steve says makes more sense. Just take the stereo submix of the drums into 1 and 2 inputs on the Gina so you can retain some stereo image. Will take a bit of experimentation to get the sound right but it can be done.

[KingNothing]

Cool. Thanks guys. You've been a lot of help.

[Track Rat]

As far as the extra outputs go I use them as aux sends. You patch Gina outs 1&2 to 2 channels of your mixer. You track and mix in your computer as normal. Then you take things like vocals or what ever and assign them to another output buss which in turn is assigned to outputs 3&4, 5&6, etc. These are patched to outboard effects and their outs are recovered in mixer channels. This allows you to mix digitally for the most part and still use your outboard analog devices. You master to a DAT recorder. Then you transfer your 2 track mix back into your computer for final mastering.

[drstawl]

Actually, GINA has four inputs if you have a S/PDIF out to feed to her. Completely independent of the two analog ins (1 & 2).

TAKE HER BACK!!!!!

Then get Layla much, much nicer

[tutton]

Problem solved

[KingNothing]

Take it back and get....mmmmmm....Pro Tools. Digi001. Anyone wanna buy a Gina for $850?