Cubase?

[Rusty K]

I'm suffering withdrawals from a multitrack software that simply will not settle down and perform reliably in my system. I won't mention NNNNNNames but please tell me how great cubase is for a player songwriter who wants to produce his own demos with my 1gig Thunderbird, LynxOne 24bit soundcard. 512MB RAM, 2 Hard drives, mainboard 8kTA3, XP.

Is the learning curve very steep with this program? I really need to get right to work if possible.

Thanks,

Rusty K

[Neil Ogilvie]

I have found Cubase a good programme with a straight forward approach and quick and easy controls. Behind this though is a very powerful and versatile programme.
When I am using it a lot I use the MIDI drums to make click tracks, which is really useful. Although Cubase does have a dedicated drum track resource, but I don't know how to use it...... Something for the future
I started on Cubasis and it helped when I moved onto Cubase, so you might want to consider that route.

[foo]

Rusty,

Happened to sit next to a guy on a plane who remixes singles for Warner Bros. He does dance mixes.
At the time I was putting together ideas for my home studio.
He uses Cubase.

A guy who does it at the highest level for a living recommended Cubase, and said taht he's used it for years, and would still go that route if he was to do it again.

That was enough for me, but I think the deal is that if you buy very high quality, you can pretty much get it to do what you want.

Be aware that you need latest versions of Cubase to be compatible with Windows XP, but it will pretty much do whatever you may need.

If you ever get to the point where Quincy Jones is calling you, you may want to consider soemthing else.



foo

[Bass Master "K"]

Based on your system specs, you should be okay, but if your having trouble with Nue...oops...NNNNNNNNNNN be aware that SX shares the same, or a very similar engine. But I am using SX flawlessly on a similar system, although I'm running a 1.9 ghz P4. But my cousin is running a system with less oomph than yours and he has his running fine.

Good luck!

[Rusty K]

So I'm assuming Cubasis would have less features than the full program but would be more user friendly and prepare me for upgrading in the future?

Is Cubasis upgradable?

Is either program available in demo? I've really got to make reasoned best move this time so I'm gonna try a couple out first.

And Bass Master K...."Nue" is not the N "bitch" I was referring to, I wish, I've heard it's a quality multimedia program but a bit pricey for me.

Thanks,

Rusty K

[Roker1]

N track he means...don't ya..

[Rusty K]

That's the one. Been fighting with it for two years.

Rusty K

[Rusty K]

Hello,

I'm seriously looking at SL or SX and would like some input on the advantages in these two programs. I so far only use basic recording techniques. No midi yet but multiple tracks and effects.

My system seems to fit the requirements for SL, 1g Thunderbird, 512 Mb RAM. LynxOne 24bit ASIO, MME soundcard, XP.

I've taken to looking at the type of posts in the product forums. I don't see a lot of problem reports here but I do see a lot of requests for manuals. Does this mean there is a steep learning curve with Cubase?

I'm not a computer nerd, although my current software has been forcing "nerdism" upon me, so user friendly is a plus.

Rusty K

[Bass Master "K"]

My apologies for thinking it was Nuendo, I thought maybe you got in over your head and were looking for something a little easier.

I can say that for the majority of home recorders looking to do nothing more than record their own tunes in a semi-professional system that Cubasis probably does just fine. One thing Cubasis seems to lack in is real heavy support from the company (at least from what people write here) because they are most concerned with their Nuendo and Cubase users, which the software is much more pricey. One thing to investigate is how many simultanious tracks you can record at once with Cubasis, there may be a limit, I am not sure but I thought I remembered there was. It could make it hard to record live drums.

I got in with Cubase VST32 and upgraded to SX and I have found that between reading posts here, and at cubase.net, and the manual that I have not had any real trouble with SX. Everytime I did I was able to get myself out of it by reading the manual. Contrary to many people's posts, I find the manual really is clear and concise and to the point. The hardest thing by far was getting my system optimized in XP and that had nothing to do with SX. I've now have had it for two months with NO PROBLEMS! I am psyched. All the tweeks are done.

SL is the "light" version of SX from what I understand. I don't know the specifics of what it's limitations are, but it is much more advanced than Cubasis.

I believe upgrades are available from either program. Check Stienbergs sights for upgrad prices.

Good luck and let us know if you have any more questions.

[Rusty K]

Bass Master K



Thanks for your time. I'm definately not going to get Cubasis. Usually you get what you pay for and I'm tired of pulling my hair out with the cheap software that I've been using.

I want solid performance, user friendly but I also want something that will give me professional results and something that I can grow into.

Yes I did some XP tweaking as well. Tell me, It seems that according to the mfg. website they recommend a pretty beefy system i.e. at least 512Mb 1gprocessor etc..( my specs exactly). Was SX not working till you did the tweaks? How big is your system? Did the manual come in the box or is it a download?

Thanks again,

Rusty K

[Bass Master "K"]

With your specs you should have a pretty kickin' system. If your running loads of tracks, you might want a little more oomph in the processor, but there are many who are running stable with much less, that is for sure.

I have ran 10 tracks (w/two stereo tracks), with three compression plug in's, 5 Eq's, and 2 reverbs running and my system was running about 8 to 10% CPU load.

My first real big project is coming up so I can give you better idea then.

I'm running:
1.9 Ghz. P4, 512 MB DDR RAM
WIN XP
Cubase VST32 and SX (although I only use SX now)
Aardvark q-10 running at 2 ms latency
then external stuff.

Anyhow, the only thing I am considering upping is my RAM to 1.2 ghz since that would really open up the system and allow loads of plug in's if I needed them. But so far I can't even begin to make my system sweat, although ten tracks of the Crystal VSTi would do it

[Bass Master "K"]

Oops, almost forgot.

Yes tweeking the system was very important. I found this website invaluable: www.musicxp.net

It has all sorts of adjustments you will want to make. So far I have almost two months of flawless DAW behavior! It is awesome.

The manual is another issue. It comes on the disc as a PDF file. I actually went to the trouble and printed mine out so I could read it away from the computer. At 750 pages it is a whopper!

[Rusty K]

Bass Master "K",

Thanks so much for all your help.


Rusty K