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09-28-2002
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Whats a good pre-amp?
I want a good preamp for about $200 - $300. I don't particularly like the ART ones cuz they are small and make it awkward to store them since they're not rackmount, you have to stick them on the top. I am partial towards the Behringer Tube Ultragain because it has tubes. Let it be known, that I do realize that since it has tubes, it doesn't mean that its good. Just better, in theory, than others of that price range. So, what would you guys recommend?
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09-28-2002
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The Studio Projects VTB-1 is getting alot of good attention. I personally like mine alot compared to the other preamps in that price range. It goes for $179. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Brandon
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09-28-2002
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Studio Projects VTB-1 is getting generally good reviews with one exception I know of. Myself, I'd say spend the $329 and get a Joemeek VC6Q. It may not be the most transparent thing in the world, but it generally sounds good, and that's what a pre needs to do.-Richie
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09-28-2002
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Also give a look at the ART TPS pre @ 179.00
You'll be pleasantly surprised!
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09-29-2002
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Sometimes, I find the general level of ignorance around here surprizing.
D . . . M . . . P . . . 3 ! ! ! Look, for $200, you get two channels of this stuff. There are few values in audio that are any better. Maybe the RNC compressor . . . the Mackie mixer . . . N-Tracks software . . . the M-Audio sound card . . . the SM57 and the Oktava mc012 mics . . . I hope some of you are following me, here. If you don't believe me, try this: Plug a couple Marshall mxl 603's into a DMP3. Throw them over a drum kit (or on an accoustic guitar) and bang (strum) away. Tell me this doesn't sound freakin' good for like $340 total !  Last edited by chessrock; 09-29-2002 at 00:20..
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09-29-2002
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in that price range, vtb1, dmp3, audio buddy.
here's a couple reviews of the vtb1: http://www.piemusic.com/mp/vtb1.html
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09-29-2002
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New Order is asking a question in re to a decent pre in the $200 price range. We have all offered our opinions including your self, but remember, that's exactly what they are; our opinions! My particular take on the TPS was it's tailored tube voicings for gits, bass acoustical instruments and vocs. Smooth and clean! A few months ago I purchased a Meek and have just ordered a VTB-1! All fine pre's with different characteristics and being a true gear junkie, I based my purchases on actual sound auditions and A/B/C'ing with against others! I have heard the praises of the DMP and have had the chance to h-EAR its qualities which are indeed great, but please don't place my self and others in any "ig'nant category" because our preferences are different than yours. While I may not be no engineering expert, I try and pa y close attention and focus on tracking the musical performance as best as one can regardless of whatever gear one is using! I still luv and respect U chess and your posts are informative, but kindly leave out "ignorance" !!! Peace Mr.Q
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09-29-2002
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Hey, Q, I'm merely trying to raise the general ignorance level of the people on this board . . . (that's a personal joke that I'm sure some of you will remember)
Look, you don't see so much discussion on what's the best compressor for $175 or under, do you? Similarly, there shouldn't be much debate about what's the best pre for $200. It's one of those audio no-brainers. So just say dmp3 and move on already.
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09-29-2002
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 It's still 'pretty creamy vanilla' 
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09-29-2002
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ok, its French Vanilla......
but you have more tonal possibilities with the VTB-1..... hell, i got a DMP2 i like alot...of course the DMP3 fixed its few bugs......but im just calling it like i see it......
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09-29-2002
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If you overdrive the amplifier, you can get unpleasent distortion, but if you use it correctly, it can and does have a very pleasant tone. Now some of the budget ART Pre's are ....mmmm, not as good as some of their competitors at the same price point, but the PRO MPA doesn't really fit that category. The PRO MPA is no longer my main microphone preamplifer, but it will always have a place in my rack. I think this puppy is going for like $330 dollars now at 8th street, and for that money, it could well be a nice flavourful addition to any rack.
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09-29-2002
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Mayby you need to evaluate what you are asking of this pre. If you want clean then by all means get a DMP-3. but if Its for vocals and you want color, theres alot of other choices.
The best of the starved plate designs are going to have the clearest sound with the tube off. Ive been using the BLUETUBE for a little while and Ive had really good results. better than the ART MP that Ive tried and the bellari and Dbx. I Havent heard the SP pre yet. I suppose the RNP may worth waiting for and the price is a couple of hundred more, Personally Im toying with getting a Great river NV thing for 950.00.
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09-29-2002
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09-29-2002
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and, chessrock, you did a very good job of discovering the source of the nice proximity of the vtb1 to be in the exaggerated bass. i posted a review on my gear site: www.piemusic.com/mp/main.html chessrock, you are invited to contribute a review. man, if you can figure out the exagerrated bass response on the vtb1, i want to see what you can do when you go over a piece of gear. a lot of people have told me they bought a vtb1 off my review. my site is getting hits off of google on people looking for the vtb1. i think people get a little leery of the hype and want some perspective on what the vtb1 can actually do. steve www.piemusic.com Last edited by ozraves; 09-29-2002 at 22:54..
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09-29-2002
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I love your site, Steve. Just got a chance to read the Sytek review, and it was one of the many that contributed to my ordering one (they should be arriving at the beginning of next month).
I should probably PM you about this, but I figured some others might be interested in this as well . . . NW Soundman and I just got together on a science project recently. The subject was a Bellari Tube preamp. Yea, I know, Bellari isn't exactly synonymous with quality sound. But their tube mic pres are the real deal, from a design standpoint. Their downfall is in all the second-grade parts they use (cheap input transformers, cheap tubes, and cheap opamps at the output). A few years back, there was a mini-buzz going on at the RAP board about how some simple mods can greatly improve the sound . . . to the point where it is very usable even in a pro / semi-pro situation. I sent one over to NW Soundman, and he basically swapped all the cheap parts out for some good ones. Not sure what else he did to it, but in a recent email he mentioned something about it being almost too clean for his taste now. I'm excited to get my hands on it, finally. I will definitely post examples and comparisons.
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09-30-2002
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i've heard one reputable person suggest the bellari getting modded. i've been more akin to thinking that if you were going to go that route to just build your own tube preamp from scratch. still, it sounds like an interesting experiment. i'd be interested in it.
steve www.piemusic.com
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