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Question shure 47?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and just ask a question I need to know. What is the name of the mic that most people use to rec snare? Is it a shure 47 or 57 or some other number? I know its got to be one of those. Thanks for the help guys...
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Shure SM57
the SM58 is very similar, and a very similar cost, just it has a round metal pop screen on it, and its made more for vocals.
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The SM57 and SM58 are exactly the same mic
The only difference is the pop filter on it. This actually cuts some of the frequency range.

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The SM57 and SM58 are exactly the same mic
The only difference is the pop filter on it. This actually cuts some of the frequency range.

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Does that mean that if you dont have an SM57, you could get the same result with a 58 but with the pop-shield off?
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All the pop shield does is diffuse some of the frequency's which changes the frequency response sightly and makes it more favourable to vocals.

Here is something Blue Bear posted in another thread:

From Shure's own literature:

Question: Do the SM58 and SM57 mics have the same frequency response curves? Is a 58 simply a 57 with an integral pop filter/windscreen?

Answer: The SM58 and SM57 do use the same cartridge. The grill, though, does effect the frequency response to some extent. At a distance, the difference is probably not noticable. But at extremely close distances, the difference is noticeable. Due to the grill, a person's mouth can get closer to the diaphragm of an SM57, thus causing more proximity effect and increased bass when compared to the SM58.

Another answer: The SM58 and the SM57 share the same mic element, the Unidyne III. The only difference between the these two models is the grill design.

The grill design does affect the high frequency response, particularly above 8,000 Hz.

The SM57 grill design allows more proximity effect because the mic diaphragm can be placed closer to the sound source. Proximity effect increases each time the distance from the mic to the source is halved. When a mic is placed very close, it is quite easy to halve the distance: 1 inch to 1/2 inch; 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch; etc. Remove the ball grill from the SM58 and it will be more similar to the SM57 in its low frequency response.

Any other differences you hear between the SM57 and SM58 are likely to be subjective (psycho-acoustic) or due to slight manufacturing differences due to part tolerance.


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sweet, im gonna take the grill off my sm58 and use it as a 57

although ive been told they are distinctly different mics, im sure you guys are right.
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I just checked Musicians Fiend and I saw that the SM 57 is only 79.99 That seem cheep to me for a mic that is so praised in both the professional and home recording scene. How would this compare to a Audix om-02?
Are these Shure 57's good enough to mic a full drum set if say you used 4 shure 57's and2 other mics. Or am I better off to buy one but not to buy 3 or 4? thanks...
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How would this compare to a Audix om-02?
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Are these Shure 57's good enough to mic a full drum set if say you used 4 shure 57's and2 other mics. Or am I better off to buy one but not to buy 3 or 4? thanks...
They are very good for drum kit recording on a budget. You can better results with a other specialized mics but they cost lots more.

If you are budget conscious I would mic the snare and toms with the Sm57. If you wanted you could mic the kick with it as well or you could get a proper kick mic. Then I would get a pair of overhead condensers such as the Behringer ECM8000 for only 39.99 each.

You would be able to get very good results with that setup.

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