Vocals Are In Another Room

[dachay2tnr]

I've got a mix I'm working on. Everything is coming together nicely, but the vocals sound somewhat like they are in a different room than the music track. The music is fine and the vocals are fine, they're just in different places.

So my question is, what tool(s) should I be using to bring everything together - eq, reverb, something else??

TIA

[mixsit]

No clue.
Can I come over and hear it?

Peace

[littledog]

Use a unifying room program (reverb) on all the tracks, rather than having a completely different reverb on each.

[dachay2tnr]

Thanks, LD. Just so I understand, are you saying to dump any reverb on the individual tracks, and just use a single reverb on the master out? Or to use a single (unifying) reverb on the master in addition to any track reverbs? And how would I account for certain tracks requiring more reverb than others?

BTW, I suspect the problem stems from the fact that the vocals and some of the instruments were recorded in one place, while other instruments were recorded in another, and then, in addition, some DXi synth instruments were also added.

[MISTERQCUE]

Myself, I prefer to record my original tracks dry and then include var 'Verb's during mixdown!

[littledog]

Your method is certainly valid, Mr.Q, but you aren't suffering from the problem dachay is having, so unification isn't an issue for you. I was assuming he was recording dry as well, except for the differing natural ambiences of the different rooms. The only truly "dry" recording would have to be done in an anechoic chamber, which it turns out, whenever it's been tried, results in about the most God-awful recordings one could possibly imagine.

Dachay, while adding reverb to the whole mix might work if you're lucky, you still might prefer to have the control of differing amounts (or none at all) on certain tracks.

The way to do this is to use an aux send (or a stereo pair of aux sends) on each track to send varying amounts (or none) of each track to one reverb program (let's say a small room). This will be the unifying element in the mix.

Once you have that, there is no reason you can't add other reverbs (like a plate, for instance) to certain tracks, maybe to get a nice long tail on your snare drum for instance.

Good luck.

[dachay2tnr]

Originally posted by littledog
I was assuming he was recording dry as well, except for the differing natural ambiences of the different rooms.

Exactly correct, LD. What makes it worse is that neither room has any acoustic treatment, so the room ambience is very prevalent.

Thanks for your help, I'll give your suggestions a try.

[volltreffer]

High !

The only thing that I could imagine is to give the tracks some more verbs from one or two kinds. Just use different send volumes so you can have different verb volume.

As a first try, I'd use some early reflection program only, as these give a 'room colour' which might help 'welding' everything together. In a second step, you might try to add a second verb with a longer tail...

Hope this helps....

aXel

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