is my mixer affecting my quality?

[jugalo180]

i have a behringer eurorack mx802 mixer. someone said that the mixer is a lot better than a lot of preamps. to me it sounds okay but i do not have any seasoned ears. am i going about it all wrong? am i to acheive better quality in a mic pre? i only use the mixer for 1 vocal mic.

[VOXVENDOR]

No, the pre amps aren't better than most outboard pre's......

If your happy with it, stick with it.. if you want better sounds, then look to upgrade....

If you are wanting to upgrade, what is your price range?

Do you want a warm tube sound, or a crisp solid state sound?


But seriosuly, they aren't considered great Pre's.... The Mackie ones however, are real decent for a board....

Voxvendor is posting in red today to symbolize the 9/11 tragedy

[regebro]

You could say it like this:

Yes, of course it affects your sound quality, everything you use do. But does it effect your sound quality so much that you feel that it limits you?

If yes, then get something better. If no, then keep it.
Use the stuff you have until you are sure some of your equipment is preventing you from sounding any better. Then get something that doesn't limit you instead. If you don't think your Behringer mixer is limiting, then it isn't. It's really as simple as that.

[jugalo180]

thanx for the good advice. i'm not really familiar with anyother sound out there so i was just asking the opinion of those who have had a chance to test out different methods of amping thier mics.

[littledog]

Originally posted by VOXVENDOR

Do you want a warm tube sound, or a crisp solid state sound?

I prefer a crisp tube sound and a warm solid state sound.

littledog is posting in blue because he is sad about the uncontrolled spreading of audio stereotypes

[jugalo180]

i really don't know the difference in the two. can someone explaine it to me in lay term or give me a few song references preferrably by the same artist but utilizing both sounds on two different songs.( i'm talking about warm aproach on one song, and the crisp aproach on another)
thanx in advance

[heinz]

Originally posted by littledog
littledog is posting in blue because he is sad about the uncontrolled spreading of audio stereotypes [/color]

good stuff

[ambi]

i would look into a mackie or soundcraft board. Im not sure which category the sound each of their preamps fall into. Maybe someone can help me out?

[jugalo180]

i'll try to do some research on that ambi.

[VOXVENDOR]

Originally posted by littledog


I prefer a crisp tube sound and a warm solid state sound.

littledog is posting in blue because he is sad about the uncontrolled spreading of audio stereotypes

Hey you! Please don't mock my red posting.

If you need to clarify something for me, or for me to clarify something for you......I'm cool with it, just come out and say it minus the satire....

(Normally I love jokes, but Im touchy about the 9/11 stuff )

Yes! It is a stereotype for the most part, yet with lower quality gear it can be true.

I see what your saying.... My Focusrite ISA 430 ($3200 US) was solid state and warm as hell, yet still had that crisp high end...

So, ya ya ya... I know the story your telling....


But, this person doesn't seem to be the type to go out and spend that type of green.


Have you heard those low end "Art " tube pres.. the ones that are about $100???

Great for the buck but........

They have this almost boxy sound to them.... and I have heard a few other cheap tube pres that are similar... and the high end was not carried very well....

You get a cheap solid state like the mackie pres or some other sub-$500 pre, and they are crisp but sometimes lacking in a nice rounded bottom end..

This is what I was addressing.


Joe

[Chris Tondreau]

Also great bang-for-the-buck pre is the Peavey TMP1 (single channel) . Peavey has the VMP2 (two channel) , which is quite well respected even among pros, and as I understand it, the TMP1 is almost but not exactly one of the two channels of the VMP2.

Chris

[jugalo180]

i really apreciate the advice everyone. voxvender, i did have the art tube and i hated it. i'm a newbie, so i didn't know exactly what the problem was but i think it was that boxieness you are talking about. i traded it in for the behringer mx602a mixer. i like that much better.

[VOXVENDOR]

Originally posted by jugalo180
i really apreciate the advice everyone. voxvender, i did have the art tube and i hated it. i'm a newbie, so i didn't know exactly what the problem was but i think it was that boxieness you are talking about. i traded it in for the behringer mx602a mixer. i like that much better.

Yeah thats exactly what I was talking about....

If your happy with the B Just stick with it.... Thats what I would suggest.

[littledog]

Originally posted by VOXVENDOR


Hey you! Please don't mock my red posting.

If you need to clarify something for me, or for me to clarify something for you......I'm cool with it, just come out and say it minus the satire....

(Normally I love jokes, but Im touchy about the 9/11 stuff )

Yes! It is a stereotype for the most part, yet with lower quality gear it can be true.

I see what your saying.... My Focusrite ISA 430 ($3200 US) was solid state and warm as hell, yet still had that crisp high end...

So, ya ya ya... I know the story your telling....

Well, Joe, I was only trying (in my own gently mocking way) to point out that now that you are a recording icon, media star, and the idol of millions, you have the awesome and sacred responsibility not to abuse your new-found status by spreading the common misconceptions that might be forgiveable in lesser mortals.

Sorry, Vox, but with power, sadly, comes responsibility.

(As you can see, i'm not doing too well on "minusing the satire". Sigh. Maybe a 12 step program? Anyway, I also take the events of 9/11 seriously. Perhaps seriously enough that, in my case, I wouldn't demean it by tying it to a discussion of crappy sounding cheap tube preamps. But I respect your sentiments and intent. And sincere congratulations, by the way, on your mag profile.)

[VOXVENDOR]

Thanks I think.