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08-18-2002
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jazz kit bass drum
I have to mic a jazz drumer kit (playing in the same room with all other musicians), I tend to mic the kit only with oh mics (and some tunes also snr when played with brushes).
but for one tune there is an obvious bass drum part so I want to print a bd track as well. this bd is very special, it is very small and very long and close from both sides (cann't put mic inside the drum) it has a clear pitch which is quit high, a normall bd mic (like d12) might not work here. which mic should I use? tell me about any model but here are the mics left (after miking all other instruments) for me: m88,sm57, md421, c414buls, beyer m500 (ribbon), beyer m201, km84i. thanx guy 
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08-19-2002
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disapointment
I don't belive that NOONE has no opinion/expirience to help with this topic...
maybe I should stick to treads like: "what is the best mic that makes you look cool" that gets so many replys here ... guy
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08-19-2002
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Re: disapointment
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 I want to back up Track Rat, and his large Diaphragm... Good Idea and I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest an Audio Technica 4033 to be exact.... You say the pitch is relatively high, so I think that one of them would work great... Nice and close to the front skin, but not too close... probably 1-2 feet like Rat suggested. In my opinion. Joe
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08-19-2002
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You'll get a lot of bleed from the other instruments in the room if you mic the drum as suggested above. You might consider making a short tunnel, using a packing blanket and another mic stand, to cut down on the bleed from the other instruments playing in the same room.
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08-19-2002
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Good idea Harvey.... Won't that affect the sound though?...
(just wondering for my own curiosity) Joe
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08-19-2002
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Bleed could definately be a problem but seeing that it's a jazz group, I'm making a bold assumption that they won't be playing at the levels a thrash metel band would be playing at. Depending on the room and the material, the bleed may even work for you.
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08-19-2002
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08-19-2002
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I don't think you'd want to put that ribbon mic out in front of a kick drum.
Not to sound elitest or anything, but I'd suspect a jazz trio (or group) to be a little more refined than your average punk-heavy metal-thrash band. Capturing them together, with a little bleed might be a good thing. I don't know if you can get a hold of one, but an SM7 can work very well on kick. It's a dynamic, and has a relitively high SPL. I'd reach for that before putting one of my delicate LD condensors in front of the kick. Just some thoughts.
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08-19-2002
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I always have a large diaphram condensor out in front of a kick, even if I have something inside of it as well. In particular, a Groove Tubes AM-52 in cardiod. No problems there even with death metel bands.
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08-19-2002
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#15
08-20-2002
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How about a large diaphragm cardioid inside the kick, facing perpendicular to the beater?
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