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Question upgrade from W98 to XP?

I have been using W98 for quite a few yrs now. I hung onto W95 until the major bugs were worked out of W98 and more than one service pack released before I upgraded. I have tweaked and twisted W98 until I almost never have a crash or a lockup on anything, if I do its sound card related. PA9 works superbly and Sonar XL as well. I`m told now that when I upgrade my sound card I`ll have to upgrade to XP to take advantage of the WDM drivers released with it. And that W98 is not properly utilizing my 512 meg of ram at present which can cause some of my soundcard problems.
My question is: Is XP stable now and are the bugs cleaned up with service packs availible, and should I upgrade from W98 for sonic benefit with Cakewalk?

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I have been using XP since the day it was launched and have never had any major problems. It has been more stable than Win2000 was even after SP2 was released.

Cakewalk recommends nothing less than 2000 or XP for Sonar 2 anyways.
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I too went from 98 to XP PRO and have had no problems. It's a very stable OS (I did disable all the frillies that it defaulted to, like dialog boxes fading in and out, etc..) Confirming the availability of updated/working drivers for all you gear and apps is probably a bigger concern than XP itself.
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Don't even think about it. Upgrade.

XP is a great OS.

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Get ready to spend a little money...
I upgraded and had to upgrade three other programs to use xp my antivirus,cd burning and gigastudio.
But still those wdm drivers are great.
Defintely more stable,and most importantly....
NO BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!

BTW I can't stand the new look I defaulted to the traditional look windows.
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IN addition, also make sure all of your other apps work properly in XP, not just your drivers for your hardware.

PS. Win98 WILL use 512Mb RAM, but won't touch anything above this figure.
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Thanks guys! XP will be installed on the Sonar machine this weekend.
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BTW, do a full install from scratch. DO NOT just install over your existing OS.
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BTW, do a full install from scratch. DO NOT just install over your existing OS.

What`z the deal in the difference? Does xp borrow some of the 98 files if you don`t uninstall it completely?
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Thumbs up Check this before XP.

Okay, before you install XP, CLICK HERE FIRST. It will give you better guide about XP & audio apps... It will help, then be sure to read it all.
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What`z the deal in the difference? Does xp borrow some of the 98 files if you don`t uninstall it completely?
Microsoft upgrades never work well. Save yourself hassle and just don't do the install over 98.
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Microsoft upgrades never work well. Save yourself hassle and just don't do the install over 98.
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Previous upgrades for microsoft never work. XP works perfectly, almost every times. If you have a screwed up install of 98, it might hiccup, but not bloody likely. Just go ahead and run the upgrade, more than likely it will work fine, and if it doesnt, you can still wipe it clean and do it. I have NEVER had a upgrade of XP screw up, and I have done many, sometimes with apallingly screwed up systems. One machine I have here in the lab, in fact the one I am typing on at this moment, started out as a NT 4.0 system, was upgraded to win2k beta, then to RC2, then to final, then the drives switch to an entirely differant machine (from an HP Kyak XA to a IBM Rambus 300PL) and upgraded to XP proffesional. Dont try this at home kids. A simple upgrade onthe same machine from 98 to XP wont evan make it breath hard. The upgrade on XP actually works like its supposed to.
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Previous upgrades for microsoft never work. XP works perfectly, almost every times. If you have a screwed up install of 98, it might hiccup, but not bloody likely. Just go ahead and run the upgrade, more than likely it will work fine, and if it doesnt, you can still wipe it clean and do it. I have NEVER had a upgrade of XP screw up, and I have done many, sometimes with apallingly screwed up systems. One machine I have here in the lab, in fact the one I am typing on at this moment, started out as a NT 4.0 system, was upgraded to win2k beta, then to RC2, then to final, then the drives switch to an entirely differant machine (from an HP Kyak XA to a IBM Rambus 300PL) and upgraded to XP proffesional. Dont try this at home kids. A simple upgrade onthe same machine from 98 to XP wont evan make it breath hard. The upgrade on XP actually works like its supposed to.
Whatever floats your boat...

I personally don't like the thought of 98 code intermingled with XP code.

I'd also rather start from scratch with NTFS rather than convert my partitions over afterwards.
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hmmm...
I will ponder both. I have the full install, and no partitions.
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I installed on top of 98 and had almost no problems,but the problem I have is pretty bad.
You see every time I record my music came out sounding out of tune,off time and poorly written.
Well it was obvious to me this must be some kind of bug in microsoft's software. When I called tech support I spoke to an extrtemely rude man who had the nerve to suggest the reason my music sounded like crap was USER ERROR!

Man I should'a got a mac, I heard music sounds great on those.
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Brzilian is right it is better to do a clean install of Win XP. Especially if at some point you have "cloned" your Win98 from one hard drive to another. Microsoft have an artlicle explaining this upgrade problem. It manifests itself as a failed bootup in Win xp with the error message "Ntldr is missing."

http://support.microsoft.com/default...BEN-US%3Bwinxp
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Like I said, under certain circumstances, XP can throw up during an upgrade, but not often, and there is absoluetly no 98 code left when XP gets through, first thing it does is delete all of it. It just keeps the info it needs so that all your apps dont need to be re-installed. This is part of what I do for a living, I evalute new software and hardware before it goes into a production enviroment so that we know what works and what doesnt work. I would have never recomend an upgrade of anything prior to XP, but XP works. Try it.
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I found that Microsoft, due to the suit with Sun Microsystems, no longer supports updates for java in XP. You have to go to the Sun Micro website to get any updates, apparently the consumer is not forewarned until install and prompted to go to the Sun site. Can`t we all just play nice and share our toys?
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That's right, and seems like they limiting the bandwidth to download it. Took 4 online hours to download 2 MB updates files...
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I have a mchine with Linux 6 on it I haven`t done anything with ina bout a yr...hmmmmm
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