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Just wanted to introduce myself!

Actually it's me,muzeman.

I updated my e-mail adress like a good boy the other day,and havn't been able to log on since!
It's cool though,I just miss my pretty picture!

Well since I'm a newbie again,I have some burning questions,like;

Whats a condenser?
Whats a mixer?
Whats an mp3?
Whats a ribbon?
What's phantom power?-(That one sounds scaaary!)
Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?

Just kidding,don't mean to offend any of you guys who are newbies too,Iv'e actually asked these questions in the past,(well most of them!)

Anyway,that's enough of that!

I have a song I'm working on,was wondering if some of you would help the new guy out?

It's a first take,any comments on production,lyrics,ect. would be greatly appreciated!

I won't be around the next couple of days,so I won't be able to reply until Saturday,thanks in advance to anybody who listen's!

Here's the link-

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/...d=1317&alid=-1

It's called-Special People

Good to be back!
Thanks,
Pete

BTW-Thanks Sam!
Your the man!
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Welcome Pete.

I thought the song was real catchy. Nice melody and smooth harmonies. Real nice guitar tone.

The vocals are clipping a bit sometimes when the harmonies kick in.

I could notice some minor differences in the doubled guitar tracks.
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MUZEMAN!

I wish I could whistle. Whenever I try, I just spit in a most non-musical way. As Mr. "LoFi Guy" here, I can't help you much in the old EQ department. However, it's a wonderfully clever song, and I thought you performed it like a champ. You might try breaking up your phrasing a tad near the end of the song to keep it fresh.

Not bad for a new kid on the block.



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Cool tune Muzeman....is this a song about people who are born with disabilities?Thats what I got out of the lyrics on the first listen......maybe it's one of those tunes that has meanings on more than one level...hmmm....I like it.....the whistling might be just a tad too loud but thats my only criticism.Nice lead vocals and harmonies.

I like the doubled guitars...I kinda like it that they're not played exactly the same.......it gives it a 2 guitar band dimension.

Enjoyed it.
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I really like this. Nice lyric.

I like the arrangement (keep it simple) ... The whistling is a nice touch.

I was tapping my toes the whole time. I don't really know how you could improve on the arrangement. It sounds good as is. I also like the harmony in there.

Great job!
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Nice whistleing Muzeman. I can't even spell it, much less do it

I dug the git rhythm. Kinda reminded me of Lyle Lovette.

Pleasant vox and the mix sounded solid.

I thought the arrangment might benefit from a break down bridge thing or something along those lines but......that's just me

I didn't "get" the lyrics but the last verse didn't seem to fit. You seemed to have a positive message up until then. The last verse struck me as defending without an attack.

Sorry for such an opinion filled reply. Your mix and tracking sound damn good. I like your songwriting. It is very real and warm.

Peace,

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Who's this guy claiming to be muzeman????
Oh, it's Pete...welcome back.

Another fine song from you, I dig the upbeat attitude. Not easy to get it across, but you communicated it very well.
Theron brings up a very good point about the last verse. It would make more sense and be more consistent to drop it and repeat the first verse.
Mix sounded fine to me, everything seemed to be in its place. But better ears than mine have already pointed out a few things.
Good to have you back, muze...uh, Pete.
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hey Pete, glad you made it back.. I knew you would..


Good tune man, real catchy.. The whistling is a bit loud, not too much, but a bit.. I glanced at the other comments and agree that the last verse can be improved on..

great melody, and the recording sounds great.. nice harmony..

short and sweet..

great job!
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good tune... good subject...

agree with others about breaking it up somehow.... but it's short enough to work as it is...

cheers
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Hey Pete:

I listened again, and I'm glad I did. I almost missed the best part.

"Special People don't play no guitar....(well some of 'em)" or something like that.

BAHAHAHAHAHahahaha...

Yeah, I'm pretty "special" on the guitar myself.

Again, thanks for this.

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TripleM,
Thanks for listening!

I appreciate your comments.

I mixed most of it on headphones,didn't want to wake everyone with my howling!
I'll lower the harmonies some,thanks.
I'm looking into a stereo pair,I only have one mic,so I have to be satisfied with"fake stereo" for now.

chrisharris,
Thanks my friend!

Dude,your stuff sounds great,low fi it ain't!
I'm really glad you liked it,means a lot coming from you.

I had trouble phrasing the last verse,I think I'm going to kill it anyway,per everyones comments here.

Kinda nice being the "new kid",I'll always be a newbie at heart!
The only downside is,the way I post,it will take me 2 years to get my picture back!

BTW-Glad you got my little humor,can't be to serious.

Kramer,
Thanks very much!
Really glad you enjoyed it.

Definitly a tune about people with disabilities.

I worked in a head injury rehab for as coulple of years,and used to do a lot of charity performing at differant types of facilities,so I have a special love for "special people".
Their cool!

I agree the whistling is to loud,and slightly out of tune.
Tough to do it twice the same,guess I'll have to eat more birdseed!

Glad you liked the guitars,little to rough though,I'm going to do another take and try to get them tighter.

boydrj,
Thanks for listening!

I tried to keep it short and simple,more effective I think.

I always wanted to try some whistling,didn't know if it would fit though,glad you liked it.
I was suprised I could do the harmony,just seemed to come out.
Not a real hard song to sing,I guess that fits me perfect!

theron,
Thanks dude!

Glad you liked the whistling,I'm with you though,I had to copy the spelling from chris's post to get it right!

The rhythm is "Big Band" style I learned from my best friend.

I have a bridge for it,just thought it might be to much considering the simplicity of the of the arrangement.
Have to give it a try though.

Definatly going to lose the last verse,I wasn't real sure it was fitting anyway.

I really appreciate your opinion's,please keep em coming,they really help!
Thanks for your comments!

mkg
Thanks,great to be back,it was a long dark journey!

"Who's this guy claiming to be muzeman????"

Ya I know,if I was going to claim to be sombody,at least I could have said I was B.SABBATH,or mixmkr!

I have another verse,you think that would work or is repeating the first verse a better way to go?

Nice to be back,you can call me muze,you can call me pete,just don't call me late for dinner!
(Sorry about that,just couldn't resist!)

Hey Sam!

I wouldn't have made it back without your help,thanks again,your the man!

Real glad you liked it.I'll definatly work on the whistling.

What would you reccomend doing on the last verse,replace it or repeat the first?

I think I'm finally learning how to use my mic,have to really get up on it and project.

That's how I like em,short and sweet,like my wife!

Thanks bro!

Fed,
Thanks very much!

I tried to keep it short,figured the melody and chord progression were to simple to expand on.

If I break it up,what do do thinks the best way,a totally differant bridge?


Thanks again,
Pete

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Hey Pete, nice tune and a very nice sentiment. I agree that "special people" are cool!

I enjoyed that.

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Yo Pete..........
...........this is great. What a great jingle for the special olympics....... Great harmonies, and very nice/solid guitar playing. ...... the whistling is a nice touch. cool stuff, makes a fella smile

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Very nice guitar tone. Very nice space.

There definitely is some vocal clipping, try compressing some more. They also sound a little thin and more set back than they should be some more compression should help that. I would definitely put them out front and and thicken them. Maybe record them again with a dif mic. They sound very midrangey without much bottom.

Performancewise, everythings tight and clean.

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What would you reccomend doing on the last verse,replace it or repeat the first?



hey Pete, IMHOP, I think if you just repeated the first verse again at the end, you would be good to go.. myabe lower the whistling a bit.. This is a very catchy tune.. So much that I found myself 'trying' to whistle it later in the day..

great job my friend..
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macle,
Thanks very much!

I really appreciate your listening.
Their definitly the coolest people!

Guernica,
Thanks dude!

Glad you liked it.
I like the whistling too,just think I have to practice a little more.
Have to try some scales and arppegios,NOT!

JuSumPilgrim,
Thanks for listening!

I don't have to worry about clipping anymore,I was just cleaning up my hard drive and deleted it!
Man I'm an idiot!

I was going to retrack most of it anyway.

I used the bass roll off on my Mackie pre for everything,I'll have to try without it this time.
My mic actually has scooped mids,must be the roll off,thanks for the tip!

Sam,
Thanks again bro!

I'm definatly going to lose the last verse and repeat the first.
Glad you dug the tune,whistling's harder than I thought!
Thought I was pretty good till I recorded it!

Thanks again,
Pete
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Whoa what can ya say... ya can't go wrong with an acoustic guitar and a positive message. Wanted to let ya know I heard ya... and it was a good listen


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