Get Reviewed!

[Erik O.]

Hi all,

I claimed some time ago that I'd be interested in listening to your material. Now, I'll take it a step further: I'll offer an honest, merciless but yet servile and friendly ment review on your stuff, based on a rating system that I've stolen - and changed a bit - from an Mp3 artist, named Tourlaville (he is aware of the theft). There is only one restriction: The material must be in mp3-format - no zip.files, please.
Oh, and please, make the link as directly to the file as possible.
The rating will look something like this:


Musicality:
Originality :
Production:
Charisma: (refers to the music - not anyones looks )

Average: 6.5

Rates go from 1 to 10 smilies.

As I did, some of you may find it somehow superficial and popped up at first glance, but give it a try.
That's it. Go ahead and shoot.

Good luck.
Erik Oberg

[WATYF]

Really?!?!?!!?!

A real life review of my stuff?!?!?!?!?

for real??? for really, truly, really real?!?!?!

well goll-ee... I'm a' gonna go russtle me up some o' my MP3's... Them "reviews" are so hard to come by aroond here... I better sign me up quick before they're all gone...!!!!!!











Dude... you're trying to sell ice cubes to Eskimos...

this whole entire forum is nothing but reviews made by hundreds of different people... are you seriosuly posting an offer to review our stuff..? as if it's something we don't already have superabundance of...

I think people are gonna opt for the reviews that don't come with restrictions.. or the haughty attitude... but thanks anyway...



WATYF

[barefoot]

Originally posted by WATYF
Dude... you're trying to sell ice cubes to Eskimos...

Maybe more like "selling water to a drowning man".

The problem is there's too much "that's great!" or "that sucks!" in this forum and not enough comments like "try adding a little more compression to the lead vocals and less reverb on the......."

Anyhow, I'd be happy if you reviewed my stuff Erik.
http://www.nowhereradio.com/barefoot/singles

barefoot

[Erik O.]

Barefoot : I.L.T.S.

Musicality:
Originality :
Production:
Charisma:

Average: 7.75

_________


Barefoot : Hydra

Musicality:
Originality :
Production:
Charisma:

Average: 8.5

In respect
Erik

[MISTERQCUE]

I thought the title of this thread said "Get Screwed"!

[WATYF]

Originally posted by barefoot
The problem is there's too much "that's great!" or "that sucks!" in this forum and not enough comments like "try adding a little more compression to the lead vocals and less reverb on the......."

I don't quite agree with this. While there is plenty of "good job" and "I didn't like it" comments, there are just as many, if not more, comments aboot specific aspects of the mix that need to be changed or suggestions aboat specific parts of the song that should be altered, etc. etc.

And if you're looking for a detailed critique, then what the h#ll good do smiley faces do you???


Here's my review of this thread:

Hope that helps...



WATYF

[SLuiCe]

HAHA W.!!!! True Indeed!

[King Elvis]

HMMMMMMMM...
lets see here, would I rather have my stuff reviewed by someone like WATYF who has 291 posts and lots of listening experience on here or...maybe...Erik O, who has...oh, I dunno...13 POSTS!!!!
You be the judge on that one.

[Erik O.]

I'm really stunned by the mean spirited posts here. I never ever met this before and I simply just can't relate to it other than it must have something to do with my choise of words.

Since I'm danish spoken, there may be some nuances in the english language that I'm not aware of, something that completely twists my attitude.
My humble motives for doing this, was (1) simply to get to know some of you guys and (2) pure interest in listening to other peoples stuff and commenting on it in some sort of structured way.
(3) I've posted my own stuff twice in this forum with remarkably kind and constructive comments in return and so I thought that I would pay back this way.

That's all there is to it, really.

I've made an identical thread in another (english spoken) forum with great succes, using practically the same words and I didn't meet anything but positive respons.

You all (exept Barefoot) seem very determined on your hostility and if this post doesn't change that, I'm afraid there's not much I can do about that.

Anyway, this thread isn't of much value now (at least from my side) so I think I'll just smoothly climb out of here and spend time on something more rewarding.

Cheers,
Erik

[badgas]

I think it would be a pretty good idea.
Some standard of reviews would be nice.
Catagorized and rated.

I can handle that.
When we tell someone what we think, it's laid out, basiclly.
Yeah, I give it a Tums up.

Some of the posts I read are scattered in the critque or everything is bunched together. I can sort it out, but this would sure simplify things.

I reckon Dragon has the last word though.

Yay!

Where's the link? I'm to damn lazy to run a search for it, don't know what to search for anyway.
No, not lazy, old. I'm to old.

[B.SABBATH]

hey Erik,

I hear what you were trying to do BUT the tunes are already here..

Go to the tunes..dont expect the tunes to come to you.. The threads have already been started, pick one and comment.. No need to start a review thread because the whole forum is about reviews...ya dig??

it's cool..


late
sam

[WATYF]

Originally posted by Erik O.
I'm really stunned by the mean spirited posts here.

lol.. no need to get offended... you're a newbie.. it's a given that you're gonna get reamed.. Especially if you put up a post suggesting that others come to you with their music. (sorry,.. but I just couldn't pass on that one.. )

No one's bein' "mean-spirited".. it's just your average everyday "newbie hazing". Don't fret... put up 36 more posts and we'll leave you alone.

WATYF

[Erik O.]

Hi B.SABBATH ,

Yeah I dig. But the hole point in this particular way of rating - the way I see it - is that when you collect the reviews in one thread with the same parameters and the same reviewer, some time along the way the ratings will begin to have more substans than they appear to have in the beginning. At least this could happen if the reviewer is succesfull.
It's practically impossible to do this by jumping around in different threads - this rating system is just not suitable for this.

Of cause my approach to this was not that I expect people to come begging for my very important and completely indispensable judgements on their stuff - that would be ridiculous, and I'm way to old for that attitude. But I can see, that you've read my post that way and I'm sorry about that.

King Elvis, if you visit other forums like the critics corners on mp3.com and IUMA, you will see these kinds of rating threads popping up all the time and no one seems to care about the number of posts the reviewer can show. That could be because people posting their material in these threads agree with me that it is simply not relevant to the subject.

Thinking of it, users of this particular forum may be very spoiled. It looks as if everone will have at least some kind of feedback when posting their music. That's not at all the case in the forums mentioned above. Some posters will actually complain about the lack of response (and I know, there may in some situations be obvious reasons they are not getting any). Review threads will at least guarantee a reaction.

Ok, this post may be somehow messy. It's way over bedtime in Denmark and I still think I should climb out of here and get some sleep.

Goodnight.
Erik

[WATYF]

I understand your reasoning.. but you still need to understand what this forum is for so you can adjust to the way things are done around here...

Since we're not some bloated, over-commercialized, conglomeration of schmucks trying to get their latest peice of crap recording listened to, we can do things differently.

When people get reviews here, they are most often not looking for a simple "thumbs up.. that was cool beans, dude" type of reply. That's why they call this the MP3 Mixing Clinic. People post here to get detailed feedback on their home-recordings.. not (primarily) feedback about whether or not the song itself sucks.

Plenty of times you'll read feedback saying something like, "Well the song wasn't really my style, but your mix was this and that and blah blah blah.. and you shoudla taken out some of the whatchamacallit in the thingamabob" and so on.

And if you really think aboot it... if we all put up a "send me your mp3's to review" thread,.. then there would still be just as many threads to jump around between.

I think we've got a pretty good system goin' here... people can ask for feedback on specific aspects of the song (hit potential, mix quality, vocals, etc.) And get a taylor made review... which I think is pretty handy.

WATYF

[Kramer]

Erik,
But who's to say that YOUR critique has any value?If you were a Top Notch Producer with loads of Platinum albums under your belt(out of different genres I might add) then maybe someone would take your offer to do a "solo" review serious,but as it stands now you are just another recording enthusiast like the rest of us without any credentials to stand on by yourself to offer a personal Critique.

The way it works now is about the best way I can think of.You get critiques from all sorts of posters with all sorts of musical taste, and that formula offers an HONEST Reliable critique when you string ALL of the posters comments/advice together in a thread.

Single person reviewing is left for those who have achieved a reasonable level of success in the Recording/Record Industry field.

I dont think you got the comments you did because you worded anything wrong,it's just the idea of thinking you are capable of giving a personal review of a persons music without having any credentials to stand on.(and you may have credintials but you havent presented them)
Why not just jump in and critique what you can along with the rest of the posters?

[SittinIdol]

Hey Erik.
Please review whichever songs you feel like on my site.

http://www.mp3.com/sittinidol

[mixmkr]

personally, I like to say sumpin'...if I can think of anything. If it sucks...I sure as hell aint given it a smiley face...even if it is just only one. I'd give it a followed by a as in....this sucks.

Erik.....this thread:





thanks for the ideas, however....

[Fed]

I think there is another point here that was missed.
The way this reviews will be presented is like a contest. And I think most would agree we are here not to win awards but learn from each other.

This rating doesn't give anything constructive to make your mix/song better it just says that it's relativaly bad or good. Well thanks but that doesn't realy help and what scale are messuring aganst.

Erik O.
I really appriciate your offer and you obviously mean well. But I'm not sure that this forum realy needs song rating thread. However I would let people deside and if someone wants let them submit their song to you. Don't be offended. We are all entitled to our oppinions. This might still proove usefull to some.

cheers

[CrankyOne]

Originally posted by WATYF
No one's bein' "mean-spirited".. it's just your average everyday "newbie hazing". Don't fret... put up 36 more posts and we'll leave you alone.

WATYF

Yeah. I can remember when I was a newbie. Boy, did I almost get rammed for not commentin to other people's tunes first

Hmmm... Don't get me wrong, I'm no veteran yet. I think I'm still a bit new here compared to mixmkr, track rat or some of the other gurus

[TheRealWaldo]

Hey, when I first came here, I was doing the reaming... Maybe I'm just a reverse freak of nature?

W.

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally posted by Erik O.
Anyway, this thread isn't of much value now (at least from my side) so I think I'll just smoothly climb out of here and spend time on something more rewarding.

Well... the way I see it... you have to decide on WHAT you're reviewing...

From your "categories", it's apparent you're trying to look at it from a mostly songwriting perspective.... when in fact, there are many here with cool songs, but bad engineering.......

When I listen or comment on someone's tune, it is almost always strictly from an engineering viewpoint... commenting on the actual song itself is virtually useless since musicality is so subjective a topic and it's simply a question of personal taste.... (which is ridiculous to try and critique!)

And your rating system doesn't provide enough information to describe specific problems areas the "reviewee" needs to focus on.

Instead of trying to slot stuff into generalized chunks, why not simply listen to the stuff here and post your opinions..... from your perspective - (naturally... who else's perspective could you post from!?!? )

Good luck....!

Bruce

[GT]

Bruce,

I have to give your ducks two thumbs up.

Allthough your salesmanship of said ducks seems to be waning.

Have you run out of ducks, or are you keeping them all to yourself? Don't be a duck horder!!

For overall duckability, and ducksence, three out of five stars, I think you can bring that up if you try.

Untill we meet again, same duck time, same duck channel.

GT

[King Elvis]

Hey Erik...
Dont take it all so seriously. I was just playing around, didnt mean to be mean...hey, that could be a song!!! Anyway. The reviews are helpful not in a 1 to 4 star kinda way, but because they tell you, and sometimes brutally so, you should have added this or not too much of that...know what I mean. Reviews are a very personal thing, for the musician and also for the reviewer. What one person thinks is a masterpiece someone else might hear as a piece of crap. Anyway, I am rambling, I am a newbie myself so I wanna say "welcome" and no hard feelings...eh

[Stratomaster]

Erik- Heya if your willing to, I've got a bunch of stuff here

http://ultratheband.com/


Review away to your hearts content. Just to point you in some direction. "Then and Now" and "River Song" are my current favorites "Twisting in the Wind" is a nice acoustic song. "Bomber Run" is a heavy metalish instrumental(currently used as a sound pack modification to the microsoft game "allegiance" ) and "Love and War" is brand new(rough mix). Enjoy!

[GT]

I thought this was a thread about ducks!!

Don't you want to talk about ducks?

Allright try to forget about ducks. You can't can you?

Ducks are everywhere!!

Gotta go, I think there's one at the door.