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*sniff* *sniff* You guys smell pretty good over here...

Hmmm. 3+ years on this BBS and I don't think I've ever been in this forum.

Not bad, I like what you've done with the place!


My name is Brad and I am a Cubase user.

Actually, I am a Cubase/ACID/Sound Forge/Vegas user and I am being lured over to the dark side by Cakewalk. Seems that they are offering Cubase users an upgrade to Sonar 2 for a good price.
I have been intrigued by Sonar since it came out, but you know about change - it is hard to change. But now I think I am ready to give Sonar a go.

Maybe I will be a former Cubase user soon. Sonar really looks cool.

Please tell me that I am doing the right thing.

Thanks,

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You're doing the right thing.
Of course, I'm already on the dark side.
Started with PA8. I played with Cubase a little but never was comfortable with it. And as much as I hate Cakewalks extreme hype, and XL ripoffs, I still think it's the best one.
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What do you feel cubase is lacking?
Is there a particular feature(s) of sonar that you're interested in?
Most people in this forum seem to be very pleased with their cakewalk products,sonar 2 is a very complete program.
Softsynths
acid type looping
real time as you monitor effects
easy to use interface
What's not to like?
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I have always been a CW/Sonar user, and have never used any other tracking program. That being said, however, I remain somewhat convinced that the *best* tracking program is the one you are most used to. I wouldn't consider switching from Sonar, unless there was a very specific feature that I couldn't live without in some other program. But that's because Sonar is the program I know best.

That doesn't mean that there aren't differences among the programs. For ex., VST seems to be more mature than DX (but there's always wrappers). Sonar has unlimited undo's (although I think Cubase SX now does also). Etc. etc.

Personally I would evaluate my needs, determine which package best meets them, and then add in the *cost* of learning a new program before deciding to switch.

But should you decide to come on over, welcome, Brad. Nice bunch of people here in the CW forum.
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Brad, why don't you post your setup (hardware interface/soundcard, cpu, HD's, OS, etc.) Many of us will have preferences there too. Maybe, given what you have, someone will be able to tell you how they made out with certain components and Sonar.
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Do you really, want to learn a whole new way to record and mix. If you can use Cubase effectively, I would stick with it. I tried the demo of cubase and could'nt make any sense out of it at all. I don't think Cakewalk is quite so hard to learn, but Cubase is supposed to be more powerful (at least midi resolution and VST Plugs)

On the other hand, You'll never have to use Acid again. The interface is (now) up front and pretty strait-foward, just a matter of learning a couple things you need to do and which way you prefer to do it.

Sound forge plugs in as an audio editor nicely, you can edit your audio in sound forge, from cakewalk, and undo if you don't like the changes.

The bad side, lots of unused audio data builds up on your hard drive, cleaning it up (truely safely) is a bit of a pain in the ass!!! not too bad though. were still waiting for VST support, although there is a third party program available to use them.

60 day demo, I didn't try yet (VST)
http://www.tonewise.com/DirectiXer/

Try the Demo of Sonar..... as always, befor you buy.
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Well, anything I say re: my set-up and what I feel Cubase is lacking now is moot...

SONAR 2.0 is on it's way to my door.

Yahoo!

First off, thanks to everybody for responding! I am in the process of rebuilding my DAW (this has now turned into just building a new one and robbing my old one for spare parts) and then I noticed this offer and I couldn't pass it up. I am still building the new machine - but now when it is complete, there will be something else exciting about it - new software to play with!

I currently use ACID & Vegas more than Cubase. The only reason I use Cubase is because that is what I learned on when I made the jump from modular digital recording to PC based recording. I never liked it all that much. When I started messing with the Sonic Foundry stuff, I was very pleased and Cubase took a back seat. Matter of fact, the last time I opened Cubase, it took me a while to remember how to use it.

Sonar had always looked appealing, but too expensive just to buy it out of the blue. So this "migration" deal is aimed at people just like me - and it worked.

I will probably be in here really soon asking all kinds of questions.

Now it is a race to see what arrives first: Sonar or the Sonar POWER book.



Thanks again, guys!

Brad
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Do you really, want to learn a whole new way to record and mix. If you can use Cubase effectively, I would stick with it. I tried the demo of cubase and could'nt make any sense out of it at all. I don't think Cakewalk is quite so hard to learn, but Cubase is supposed to be more powerful (at least midi resolution and VST Plugs)

On the other hand, You'll never have to use Acid again. The interface is (now) up front and pretty strait-foward, just a matter of learning a couple things you need to do and which way you prefer to do it.

Sound forge plugs in as an audio editor nicely, you can edit your audio in sound forge, from cakewalk, and undo if you don't like the changes.

The bad side, lots of unused audio data builds up on your hard drive, cleaning it up (truely safely) is a bit of a pain in the ass!!! not too bad though. were still waiting for VST support, although there is a third party program available to use them.

60 day demo, I didn't try yet (VST)
http://www.tonewise.com/DirectiXer/

Try the Demo of Sonar..... as always, befor you buy.
if u have a vst wrapper cubase is in no way shape or form superior to Sonar 2.....Sonar 2 is better then Cubase VST/32
and so far seems on par (maybe better if u are a frequent user of acid loops!) with Cubase SX...except i'm not familiar wit the score writing in Sonar (cuz i don't use it) and thats suppose to be a cool new thing SX has
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