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Question Click Track for a drummer - Delta 1010

I have a Delta 1010 and Cakewalk SONAR. How can I set up a click track for a drummer to play to? The 1010 has MIDI in and out, but none of the Cakewalk Session Drummer stuff or Metronome stuff seems to work. Do I need a separate MIDI card for this to work? I think the 1010's MIDI connections are just through connections and not actually converting the MIDI. Is this right? And how much would a card for this cost me? Can I use a cheap audio card? Why wouldn't the 1010 have this?
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Not a big fan of MIDI clicks (or internal software generated ones), unless the source of the click is in the same unit that your playing on , i.e. a keyboard.

There are many free software drum programs out there, that you can create a click in, and then export a wav file. Then import into Sonar.

This has a few advantages:

- controlling the volume of the click via fader instead of endless dropdown menu's.
- a more stable click
- makes you think more about 'how fast should it really be'... after exporting a dozen times... Thats a joke, not a real point.

Anyway, give that a go.

www.fruityloops.com

Is one,

http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/

another, never used it though.

Or..

If you have a drum machine kicking around, wipe the dust off it, and use it to generate a solid click via output to an input on the 1010. Record it to a track, put down the scratch guitars, vocals whatever, do the drums and rock out!
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The cheap and dirty workaround is to take a .wav file of a cowbell hit (or record one), edit it, then paste it into a track on beat 1, 2, 3, & 4. Then copy the entire measure and paste it repeatedly until your track is filled. You can take 4 & 8 bar measures and copy/paste them pretty quick. Use grid snap to ensure accuracy.

Of course, you don't wanna mess with tempo after that.
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....none of the Cakewalk Session Drummer stuff or Metronome stuff seems to work....

To be able to play Cakewalk Session Drummer or Metronome, which in Sonar is MIDI-based (or any MIDI file for that matter) you need a device which will generate the sound for you. It may be a hardware card with an on-board synth such as Soundblaster or a software synth such as LiveSynth or Roland Sound Canvas (bundeled with Sonar XL) or an external synth. Then you even will be able to connect a MIDI controller to your Delta MIDI inputs and play it.
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Heinz is right. And screw trying to get midi stuff to work. You have a 1010. Record something. A cowbell hit, spoon on a glass, kick the dog, whatever.
But instead of cutting and pasting a bar, make it a groove clip and stretch it thru the song. And if your tune has tempo changes, your clip should adjust with it.
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(beavis voice) ooohhhhh yeeeahhhh.... uh huh nnhh huh huh... groove clips... unh huhuhuh huhuh..... cool...

Kick the dog? He said "click" track not "kick" track hee hee- certainly would stand out in the mix though.
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Question Okay friends.........

I took your advice and recorded some drum sounds from my Casio keyboard, a little kick and snare, boom - tah, boom - tah, etc.

I made that into a groove clip and looped it, the problem was, no matter where I cut the audio up to make the groove clip I got this gap of sound between each loop. I tried messing with the Tempo setting, but it didn't remove this gap. Does anyone know what this is from?
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